Special Meeting - 5 December 2024
Date: Thursday, 5 December 2024 at 8:30AM
Location: Noosa Shire Council Chambers , 9 Pelican Street , Tewantin , QLD 4565 , Australia
Organiser: Noosa Shire Council
Duration: 03:15:27
Synopsis: Amendment to Noosa Plan adopted w/ State submission, Housing supply advanced: 20% GFA rental bonus and zoning tweaks, Consultation endorsed, Short‑stay rules tightened, Environmental setbacks corrected.
Meeting Attendees
Councillors
Frank Wilkie Amelia Lorentson Jessica Phillips Brian Stockwell Tom Wegener Nicola Wilson Executive Officers
Chief Executive Officer Larry Sengstock Director Community Services Kerri Contini Director Strategy And Environment Kim Rawlings Director Development & Regulation Richard MacGillivray Acting Director Infrastructure, Shaun Walsh Apologies (Did Not Attend)
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Key Decisions & Discussions Frank Wilkie secured adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 with modifications and authorisation to submit to the State under Minister’s Guidelines s18.4, s19.1, s21.1; affordable-rental bonus corrected to 20% GFA, not 10% (Minutes 5 & 12 Dec Item 4.1; 12:49, 03:01:56). Tom Wegener succeeded removing the proposed 7m landscape buffer on Hofmann Dr (Attachment 2, item 2.5) (Minutes 5 Dec Amendment No.2; 01:10:21). Brian Stockwell clarified setbacks for properties adjoining new Environment Management & Conservation zones: delete unintended 100m/20m buffers; normal rural setbacks apply (Attachment 2, cl 9.1) (Minutes 5 & 12 Dec Amendment No.7; 02:55:17). Jessica Phillips / Tom Wegener secured deletion of proposed change in Section 1.2 of Attachment 2 related to amplified music handling within the Noosa Junction package (Minutes 12 Dec Amendment No.12; 02:58:24–03:00:01). Amelia Lorentson / Frank Wilkie achieved inclusion of high density zoning over 4 Albert St, Noosaville (Council carpark), noting its current public parking function (Attachment 2 item 3.12) (Minutes 12 Dec Amendment No.16; 12:49). Council endorsed preparation and publication of a Consultation Report to all submitters (s18.4 MGR) (Minutes Item 4.1; 00:48–08:44). Multiple attempted amendments to retain broader single dwelling/dual occupancy entitlements in Medium/High Density zones were defeated (Minutes 5 Dec Amendments 3–4; 12 Dec Amendments 8–9; 01:14:44–01:50:20). Adjournments granted to allow councillors more time; final resolution carried 4–2 (For: Wilkie, Wegener, Stockwell, Wilson; Against: Lorentson, Phillips) (Minutes 12 Dec final resolution; 03:02:17–03:12:55). Staff reaffirmed extensive consultation: 8 weeks, 475 written submissions + petition of 600 (Attachment 1), with changes consolidated in Attachment 2/3 (00:48–07:40; 18:40–20:28). Contentious / Transparency Matters Nicola Wilson protested two-day agenda lead time and volume (167 pages), seeking deferral for due diligence; initially lost, later adjournment granted (Standing Orders 4.2) (23:15–24:43; 03:02:17–03:12:55). Amelia Lorentson / Jessica Phillips pushed to defer Noosa Junction trading hours/amplified music changes pending a precinct framework; lost after debate over equity vs. noise (Item 1.1–1.4) (32:46–01:10:02). Jessica Phillips challenged rezoning of 247–257 Gympie Tce to High Density, citing streetscape/economic impacts; lost (Item 3.12/3.13) (02:33:07–02:44:23; Minutes 5 Dec Amend.5). Nicola Wilson sought to keep Thomas St lots in Tourist Accommodation fearing body corporate constraints; lost (Item 3.9) (02:44:41–02:53:52; Minutes 5 Dec Amend.6). Points of order and tone concerns arose during the Medium Density debate; chair cautioned adherence to standing orders (01:26:00–01:27:29). Legal / Risk Process strictly under Minister’s Guidelines and Rules: State Interest Check completed; next step is Ministerial approval for adoption (07:50–08:44; Minutes Item 4.1 A–D). Kim Rawlings warned SEQ Regional Plan housing targets are monitored; failure to enable capacity may trigger State overrides (e.g., dual occupancies in Low Density) (01:28:55–01:33:32). Existing lawful use and superseded planning scheme rights preserved: like-for-like rebuilds; 12‑month window for superseded applications (01:33:32–01:46:25). Environmental zoning VCA translation risk fixed to avoid off‑site burdening adjoining owners (Minutes Amendment No.7; 02:55:47–02:58:05). No retrospective effect on tourist operations where zones change; pre-existing approvals/use rights continue (02:15:06–02:16:56). Planning Scheme, Zoning & Housing Supply Core strategic thrusts: advance Housing Strategy, strengthen Short Stay management, clarify Tourist Accommodation zone, and deliver diverse dwelling sizes (07:50–11:23; 12:03–16:43). Medium/High Density tweaks retained post‑submissions: houses accepted on lots up to 500sqm; dual occupancy consistent up to 1,000sqm; multiple dwellings still allowed—proponents’ bid to revert to blanket acceptance lost (01:17:12–01:20:05; 01:50:20). Affordable rental bonus now clearly 20% GFA; optional height bonus of one extra storey (2m) on key sites (Minutes correction; 12:00–12:03; 03:01:56). Noosa Junction Hospitality Precinct: staff path retained (level trading hours; clarified amplified music definition), but one element (Section 1.2 in Attachment 2) deleted by Amendment No.12 (43:00–44:37; 02:58:24–03:00:01). Tourist Accommodation zone review refined: some sites to High Density or District Centre to prioritise permanent housing/mixed-use; submissions led to tailored responses (e.g., Nomads site allows capped low-cost visitor uses with masterplan) (02:19:46–02:23:28). Anita Lakeland confirmed 475 submissions, 10 key issue streams, and that changes cluster across many submissions; Attachment 2 enumerates accepted changes (00:48–02:02; 18:40–20:28). Short-Term Accommodation & Tourist Precincts Short Stay tightening continues consistent with STA Monitoring Report; preference for permanent housing in strategic waterfront and centre-adjacent areas (12:03–16:43; 02:17:22–02:19:30). Nomads/12-lot Noosa Dr: High Density retained, but permits up to 40% low‑cost visitor accommodation (backpackers/motel) by masterplan; remainder for permanent dwellings (02:19:46–02:23:28; 03:00:55–03:01:45). STA definition nuance: “short‑term accommodation” under State definitions groups motels/backpackers/self-contained; Council confines added permissibility to low‑cost forms at nominated sites (03:00:55–03:01:45). Noosa Junction Hospitality Precinct (Hours, Music, Noise) Equity vs amenity: proposal evens trading to midnight; amplified music definition added for clarity; Liquor & Gaming noise compliance still applies (41:18–50:24). Precinct framework flagged for 2025 amendments, but deferral of core changes rejected to avoid prolonged inequity/uncertainty (52:41–54:34; 01:06:43–01:07:27). Environmental Concerns VCA-based rezoning to Environment Management & Conservation ensures no offsite setback imposts; normal rural setbacks remain (Minutes Amendment No.7; 02:55:47–02:58:05). Hofmann Dr buffer (7m) removed to align with intended Noosa Business Centre interface outcomes (Minutes 5 Dec Amend.2; 01:10:21). Gympie Terrace / Thomas Street / Noosaville Proposal reinforces a residential neighbourhood with local services along Gympie Tce; permanent residents to live in high-amenity riverfront areas; heritage constraints noted (02:35:08–02:43:37). Thomas St: District Centre with Main Street precinct to broaden permissible ground-floor uses and seek permanent dwellings on redevelopment; attempts to retain Tourist Accommodation on select lots failed (02:45:19–02:52:21; Minutes 5 Dec Amend.6 lost).
Official Meeting Minutes
MINUTES Special Meeting Thursday, 5 December 2024 8:30am (adjourned) Thursday , 12 December 2024 9am (resumed) Council Chambers, 9 Pelican Street, Tewantin Crs Frank Wilkie (Chair), Karen Finzel, Amelia Lorentson, Jessica Phillips, Brian Stockwell, Tom Wegener, Nicola Wilson “Noosa Shire – different by nature” SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 5 DECEMBER 2024 1. DECLARATION OF OPENING The meeting was declared open at 8.30am. 2. ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF COUNTRY Noosa Council respectfully acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the lands and waters of the Noosa area, the Kabi Kabi people, and pays respect to their Elders, past, present and emerging. 3. ATTENDANCE & APOLOGIES COUNCILLORS Cr Frank Wilkie (Chair) Cr Karen Finzel Cr Amelia Lorentson Cr Jessica Phillips Cr Brian Stockwell Cr Tom Wegener Cr Nicola Wilson EXECUTIVE Chief Executive Officer Larry Sengstock Director Community Services Kerri Contini Director Strategy and Environment Kim Rawlings Director Development & Regulation Richard MacGillivray APOLOGIES Nil. 4. SPECIAL MEETING REPORTS 4.1. NOOSA PLAN 2020 PROPOSED AMENDMENT NO. 2 - POST PUBLIC NOTIFICATION FOR FINAL STATE GOVERNMENT MINISTERIAL APPROVAL Motion Moved: Cr Frank Wilkie Seconded: Cr Tom Wegener That Council note the report by the Strategy and Sustainability Manager to the Special Meeting dated 5 December 2024 regarding Proposed Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 and: A. Note the Submissions Table contained in Attachment 1 including the summary of submissions, responses to submissions and recommended changes to proposed Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020; B. Under section 18.4 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules prepare a Consultation Report and notify submitters of how their submission has been dealt with and upload the Consultation Report to Council's website; C. Under section 19.1 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules endorse the changes proposed to Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 as outlined in this report and summarised in Attachment 2 and Attachment 3 and authorise SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 5 DECEMBER 2024 the CEO to make the changes and any other consequential changes as required prior to submitting to the State Government with the correction of an error in Attachment 2, Page 3, Item 7, second dot point, that should read: "optional development bonuses including an additional storey (2m) in height on key sites if providing 10 20% of the total GFA as affordable rental premises"; and D. Under section 21.1 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules give notice of a request to adopt the proposed amendments to the Minister. Procedural Motion Moved: Cr Nicola Wilson Seconded: Cr Jessica Phillips That Council note the report by the Strategy and Sustainability Manager to the Special Meeting dated 5 December 2024 regarding Proposed Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 and request the CEO call a Special Meeting on the 12 December and defer the matter to that Special Meeting to allow Councillors further opportunity to consider the details and implications of the Report. For: Cr Wilson Against: Crs Stockwell, Wilkie, Lorentson, Phillips, Finzel and Wegener Lost. Amendment No. 1 Moved: Cr Amelia Lorentson Seconded: Cr Jessica Phillips That Item 1, a, b and c be added to Item C as follows: 1. With proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 in Attachment 2, to be replaced with the following: a. Retain the current hours of operation in the Hospitality precinct for food and drink outlets until investigations have been undertaken into suitable precinct management frameworks as per the Notice of Motion endorsed by Council in October 2024; b. No amplified music is to be located on site (indoor or outdoor) beyond 9pm Sunday to Thursday, unless treated acoustically to appropriate level, until investigations into precinct management framework are complete; and c. Once these investigations have been completed consider any recommendations including changing operating hours for food and drink outlets in the Noosa junction Hospitality precinct as part of a future planning scheme amendment to the Noosa Plan 2020. For: Crs Lorentson and Phillips Against: Crs Wilkie, Wegener, Finzel, Stockwell and Wilson Lost. Amendment No. 2 Moved: Cr Tom Wegener Seconded: Cr Karen Finzel That Item 1 be added under Item C: 1. With the exception of the proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 2.5 in Attachment 2 and that this proposed change referring to a 7m landscape buffer along Hofmann Drive be removed from the amendments. Carried unanimously. SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 5 DECEMBER 2024 Amendment No. 3 Moved: Cr Amelia Lorentson Seconded: Cr Nicola Wilson That Items 2, 3, and 4 be added to Item C: 2. The proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 4.1 and 4.2 in Attachment 2 and be replaced with: "4.1 retain the current provisions of Noosa Plan 2020 that allows a dwelling house as accepted development subject to requirements in the Medium and High Density Residential zones regardless of lot size." 3. The proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 6.2 and 6.3 in Attachment 2 be replaced with: "6.2 retain the current provisions of Noosa Plan 2020 that allows dual occupancy as code assessment in the Medium Density Residential zones, regardless of lot size." 4. Note the continued allowance of multiple dwellings in Medium and High Density Residential zones as allowed for under the current Noosa Plan 2020. For: Crs Lorentson, Wilson and Phillips Against: Crs Wilkie, Wegener, Finzel and Stockwell Lost. Amendment No. 4 Moved: Cr Amelia Lorentson Seconded: Cr Karen Finzel That Item 2 be added under Item C: 2. Defer consideration of rezoning properties from tourist accommodation to another zone until an assessment of the economic impacts is conducted. Lost unanimously. Amendment No. 5 Moved: Cr Jessica Phillips Seconded: Cr Brian Stockwell That Item 2, a and b, be added under Item C: 2. Include an additional proposed change in response to public submissions to Attachment 2 as follows: a. 3.12 remove 247-257 Gympie Terrace, Noosaville from the proposed High Density Residential zone and the site remain in its current Tourist Accommodation zone; and b. 3.13 all proposed amendments referencing the site be reverted back to existing wording. For: Cr Phillips Against: Crs Finzel, Stockwell, Wilson, Wegener, Wilkie and Lorentson Lost. SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 5 DECEMBER 2024 Amendment No. 6 Moved: Cr Nicola Wilson Seconded: Cr Jessica Phillips That Item 2 be added under Item C: 2. Amend Item 3.9 in Attachment 2 to read: Lots 20-28 GTP2026 and lots 1-3 GTP 2743 fronting Gympie Terrace and Lots 1-5 GTP2026 fronting Thomas Street at 185 Gympie Terrace be removed from the proposed District Centre zone and Mainstreet Precinct and remain in the Tourist Accommodation zone. For: Cr Wilson Against: Crs Finzel, Phillips, Stockwell, Wegener, Wilkie, and Lorentson Lost. Amendment No. 7 Moved: Cr Brian Stockwell Seconded: Cr Amelia Lorentson That Item 2 be added under Item C: 2. With the exception of clause 9.1 in Attachment 2 and reword this clause to provide further clarity as follows: Remove the 100m and 20m building setbacks for boundaries of lots that adjoin privately owned properties that are proposed for inclusion in the Environment Management and Conservation Zone as part of these amendments. The normal setbacks will continue to apply for side and rear boundaries for buildings and structures in the Rural Zone. Carried unanimously. Motion Moved: Cr Frank Wilkie Seconded: Cr Tom Wegener That Council note the report by the Strategy and Sustainability Manager to the Special Meeting dated 5 December 2024 regarding Proposed Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 and: A. Note the Submissions Table contained in Attachment 1 including the summary of submissions, responses to submissions and recommended changes to proposed Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020; B. Under section 18.4 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules prepare a Consultation Report and notify submitters of how their submission has been dealt with and upload the Consultation Report to Council's website; C. Under section 19.1 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules endorse the changes proposed to Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 as outlined in this report and summarised in Attachment 2 and Attachment 3 and authorise the CEO to make the changes and any other consequential changes as required prior to submitting to the State Government with the correction of an error in Attachment 2, Page 3, Item 7, second dot point, that should read: "optional development bonuses including an additional storey (2m) in height on key sites if providing 10 20% of the total GFA as affordable rental premises"; and SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 5 DECEMBER 2024 1. With the exception of the proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 2.5 in Attachment 2 and that this proposed change referring to a 7m landscape buffer along Hofmann Drive be removed from the amendments; and 2. With the exception of clause 9.1 in Attachment 2 and reword this clause to provide further clarity as follows: Remove the 100m and 20m building setbacks for boundaries of lots that adjoin privately owned properties that are proposed for inclusion in the Environment Management and Conservation Zone as part of these amendments. The normal setbacks will continue to apply for side and rear boundaries for buildings and structures in the Rural Zone. D. Under section 21.1 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules give notice of a request to adopt the proposed amendments to the Minister. Procedural Motion Moved: Cr Amelia Lorentson Seconded: Cr Jessica Phillips That Council note the report by the Strategy and Sustainability Manager to the Special Meeting dated 5 December 2024 regarding Proposed Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 and adjourn the meeting to a later time to be determined by the Chief Executive Officer to allow Councillors further opportunity to consider the details and implications of the Report. For: Crs Lorentson, Phillips, Finzel, Wilson, Stockwell and Wilkie Against: Cr Wegener Carried. The meeting adjourned at 11.45am on Thursday 5 December 2024. Resumption date is to be advised. SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 12 DECEMBER 2024 1. DECLARATION OF OPENING The Special Meeting dated Thursday 5 December 2024 resumed at 9am on Thursday 12 December 2024. 2. ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF COUNTRY Noosa Council respectfully acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the lands and waters of the Noosa area, the Kabi Kabi people, and pays respect to their Elders, past, present and emerging. 3. ATTENDANCE & APOLOGIES COUNCILLORS Cr Frank Wilkie (Chair) Cr Amelia Lorentson Cr Jessica Phillips Cr Brian Stockwell Cr Tom Wegener Cr Nicola Wilson EXECUTIVE Chief Executive Officer Larry Sengstock Director Strategy and Environment Kim Rawlings Director Development & Regulation Richard MacGillivray Director Community Services Kerri Contini Acting Director Infrastructure, Shaun Walsh APOLOGIES Cr Karen Finzel 4. SPECIAL MEETING REPORTS Cr Lorentson left the meeting. Council Resolution Moved: Cr Frank Wilkie Seconded: Cr Jessica Phillips That the meeting be adjourned for 15 minutes. For: Crs Phillips, Wegener, Wilson and Wilkie Against : Crs Stockwell Carried. Council Resolution Moved: Cr Frank Wilkie Seconded: Cr Brian Stockwell That the meeting be resumed. For: Crs Wegener, Phillips, Stockwell and Wilkie Against: Cr Wilson Carried. SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 12 DECEMBER 2024 4.1. NOOSA PLAN 2020 PROPOSED AMENDMENT NO. 2 - POST PUBLIC NOTIFICATION FOR FINAL STATE GOVERNMENT MINISTERIAL APPROVAL Motion Moved: Cr Frank Wilkie Seconded: Cr Tom Wegener That Council note the report by the Strategy and Sustainability Manager to the Special Meeting dated 5 December 2024 regarding Proposed Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 and: A. Note the Submissions Table contained in Attachment 1 including the summary of submissions, responses to submissions and recommended changes to proposed Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020; B. Under section 18.4 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules prepare a Consultation Report and notify submitters of how their submission has been dealt with and upload the Consultation Report to Council's website; C. Under section 19.1 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules endorse the changes proposed to Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 as outlined in this report and summarised in Attachment 2 and Attachment 3 and authorise the CEO to make the changes and any other consequential changes as required prior to submitting to the State Government with the correction of an error in Attachment 2, Page 3, Item 7, second dot point, that should read: " optional development bonuses including an additional storey (2m) in height on key sites if providing 20% of the total GFA as affordable rental premises"; and 1. With the exception of the proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 2.5 in Attachment 2 and that this proposed change referring to a 7m landscape buffer along Hofmann Drive be removed from the amendments; and 2. With the exception of clause 9.1 in Attachment 2 and reword this clause to provide further clarity as follows: "Remove the 100m and 20m building setbacks for boundaries of lots that adjoin privately owned properties that are proposed for inclusion in the Environment Management and Conservation Zone as part of these amendments. The normal setbacks will continue to apply for side and rear boundaries for buildings and structures in the Rural Zone." D. Under section 21.1 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules give notice of a request to adopt the proposed amendments to the Minister. Cr Lorentson returned to the meeting. SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 12 DECEMBER 2024 Amendment No. 8 Moved: Cr Amelia Lorentson Seconded: Nil That Items 3 and 4 be added under Item C: 3. Replace the proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 4.1 and 4.2 in Attachment 2 with: 4.1 retain the current provisions of Noosa Plan 2020 that allows a dwelling house as accepted development subject to requirements in the Medium and High Density Residential zones. 4. Replace the proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 6.2 and 6.3 in Attachment 2 with: 6.2 retain the current provisions of Noosa Plan 2020 that allows dual occupancy as code assessment in the Medium Density Residential zones, regardless of lot size. The Chair ruled Amendment No. 8 as out of order. Procedural Motion Moved: Cr Amelia Lorentson Seconded: Cr Jessica Phillips That the Chairperson's ruling be dissented from. For: Crs Lorenston, Wilson and Phillips Against: Crs Wegener, Stockwell and Wilkie The Chair exercised his casting vote against the Amendment. Lost. Amendment No. 9 Moved: Cr Nicola Wilson Seconded: Cr Jessica Phillips That items 3 and 4 be added to Item C: 3. That Section 4. Dwelling Houses becoming inconsistent in Medium and High Density Residential Zones, be amended to read: make the use of a dwelling house consistent and accepted development subject to requirements if located on a lot less than 1,000sqm, in the Medium Density Residential zones; and make the use of a dwellings house inconsistent on a lot 1,000sqm or greater in the Medium and High Density Residential zones; encourage greater yield on lots over 600sqm where appropriate to the site. 4. That Section 6. Mandatory Small dwellings requirement in the Medium and High Density Residential Zones and dual occupancy as inconsistent in Medium Density Residential zone on lots 600sqm or greater, be amended to read: retain the current Noosa Plan 2020 small dwelling bonus provisions as optin rather than mandatory in the Medium and High Density Residential zones; make dual occupancies consistent in the Medium Density Residential zone; and encourage greater yield on lots over 1,000sqm where appropriate to the site. For: Crs Wilson, Phillips and Lorentson Against: Crs Wegener, Stockwell and Wilkie The Chair exercised his casting vote against the Amendment. Lost. SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 12 DECEMBER 2024 Amendment No. 10 Moved: Cr Jessica Phillips Seconded: Cr Amelia Lorentson That Items 3 and 4 be added to Item C: 3. That 1.1 in Attachment 2 be replaced with the following: "proceed with the proposed extended hours of operation for food and drink outlets to 12 midnight seven days per week, including new applications and where amplified music is proposed, to be acoustically treated". 4. Delete proposed changes at 1.2 and remove the definition of amplified music. The meeting adjourned at 11.13am for 15 mins. The meeting resumed at 11.32am. Lost unanimously. Amendment No. 11 Moved: Cr Amelia Lorentson Seconded: Nil That Item 3 be added to Item C: 3. Delete Section 1.1 – 1.4, and replace with "1.1 Not proceed with proposed amendments as advertised and retain the current provisions of the Noosa Plan." and "1.2 As part of the next round of amendments anticipated to be initiated in 2025 further investigations occur considering aligning noise related provisions to State requirements such as those set by Office of Liquor and Gaming and the Environmental Protection Act and that these investigations inform any future amendments if appropriate." The Amendment lapsed for want of a seconder. Amendment No. 12 Moved: Cr Jessica Phillips Seconded: Cr Tom Wegener That Item 3 be added to item C: 3. That In Section 2. in Attachment 2, proposed changes in Section 1.2. be deleted. Carried unanimously. SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 12 DECEMBER 2024 Amendment No 13. Moved: Cr Nicola Wilson Seconded: Cr Jessica Phillips That Item 4 be added to item C: 4. Amend the affordable rental premises definition to reduce the long term affordable rental time to 20 years and remove Items 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4. 7.2 remove the affordable rental bonus provisions from the Medium and High Density Residential zones except on the key sites being the former Noosa Bowls Club site and Noosa Business Centre; 7.3 retain the affordable rental bonus provisions over the Major Centre zone at Noosa Junction and Village Mixed Use Precinct at Noosa Business Centre and District Centre zone at Doonella Street, Tewantin; and 7.4 amend the PSP11 Provision of Affordable Rental Premises to reflect the changes that the affordable rental premises are applicable in some centre zones and selected High Density Residential Zones sites." Lost unanimously. Amendment No. 14 Moved: Cr Brian Stockwell Seconded: Cr Amelia Lorentson That Item 4 be added to item C: 4. That Item 7.2 be amended to remove the mandatory elements of affordable rental bonus provisions from the Medium and High Density Residential zones except on the key sites being the former Noosa Bowls Club site and Noosa Business Centre. Lost unanimously. Amendment No. 15 The following material was presented to the meeting in relation to this item: Cr Jessica Phillips – refer toAttachment 1 to the Special Meeting Minutes photo - 4 Albert St Noosaville Moved: Cr Amelia Lorentson Seconded: Cr Jessica Phillips That Item 4 be added under Item C: 4. Remove 4 Albert Street, Noosaville (Council carpark) from the High Density Residential zone and the site remain in the Tourist Accommodation zone. Lost unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 12.39pm for 10 minutes. The meeting resumed at 12.49pm. Amendment No. 16 Moved: Cr Amelia Lorentson Seconded: Cr Frank Wilkie That Item 4 be added under Item C: 4. Include in item 3 additional Item 3.12: 3.12 proceed with the proposed high density residential zone over 4 Albert St, Noosaville (Council owned carpark), while noting its current important role in the provision of public car parking. Carried unanimously. SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 12 DECEMBER 2024 Council Resolution Moved: Cr Frank Wilkie Seconded: Cr Tom Wegener That Council note the report by the Strategy and Sustainability Manager to the Special Meeting dated 5 December 2024 regarding Proposed Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 and: A. Note the Submissions Table contained in Attachment 1 including the summary of submissions, responses to submissions and recommended changes to proposed Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020; B. Under section 18.4 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules prepare a Consultation Report and notify submitters of how their submission has been dealt with and upload the Consultation Report to Council's website; C. Under section 19.1 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules endorse the changes proposed to Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 as outlined in this report and summarised in Attachment 2 and Attachment 3 and authorise the CEO to make the changes and any other consequential changes as required prior to submitting to the State Government with the correction of an error in Attachment 2, Page 3, Item 7, second dot point, that should read: "optional development bonuses including an additional storey (2m) in height on key sites if providing 20% of the total GFA as affordable rental premises"; and 1. With the exception of the proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 2.5 in Attachment 2 and that this proposed change referring to a 7m landscape buffer along Hofmann Drive be removed from the amendments; 2. With the exception of clause 9.1 in Attachment 2 and reword this clause to provide further clarity as follows: "Remove the 100m and 20m building setbacks for boundaries of lots that adjoin privately owned properties that are proposed for inclusion in the Environment Management and Conservation Zone as part of these amendments. The normal setbacks will continue to apply for side and rear boundaries for buildings and structures in the Rural Zone." 3. That In Section 2. in Attachment 2, proposed changes in Section 1.2. be deleted. 4. Include in item 3 additional Item 3.12: "3.12 proceed with the proposed high density residential zone over 4 Albert St, Noosaville (Council owned carpark), while noting its current important role in the provision of public car parking." D. Under section 21.1 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules give notice of a request to adopt the proposed amendments to the Minister. For: Crs Wilkie, Wegener, Stockwell and Wilson Against: Crs Lorentson and Phillips Carried. SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 12 DECEMBER 2024 5. CONFIDENTIAL SESSION Nil. 6. MEETING CLOSURE The meeting closed at 1.30pm.
Meeting Transcript
Frank Wilkie 00:00.000
Declare the meeting open at 8:30am. I'd like to acknowledge that we're meeting on the traditional lands of the Kabi Kabi People, pay my respects to their elders past, present and emerging, and reiterate their continual invitation for us to join them as joint custodians, respecting and caring for this beautiful place that we all love, and each other. All councils are in attendance. And today's Special Meeting is to consider the Noosa Plan 2020 proposed amendments number two. Finally, post public notification for final state government ministerial approval, and we have Director Kim Rawlings and strategy and sustainability manager Anita Lakeland here for this report, as well as other supporting staff. Would you please give us a summary of the report, Anita? Kim Rawlings 00:48.700
Facts I'm bringing this report to you on behalf of the strategic planning team, so I just want to acknowledge the huge amount of work that everyone's done to contribute to this report and the attachments, and as you know, it's a hundred page report, so I'd just like to acknowledge Sara, Rowena, Glenn and Michelle in contributing Rebecca of course, and Richard and the DA team as well, and anyone else from across Council. This report seeks council's endorsement of changes to proposed Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020, known as the proposed amendments, following an extensive public notification and community engagement process and receipt of public submissions. You'll recall that last year in January and in April 2023, two reports were brought to Council proposing the amendments on the back of implementing the recommendations of the Short-term Accommodation Monitoring Report and the Housing Strategy, both of which were endorsed by Council, as well as a review of the Tourism Accommodation Zone review and other planning matters. Council endorsed those reports in the proposed amendments for the purpose of public for first aid interest check. They were forwarded to the State and underwent a really lengthy process with the State, quite a protracted process, and we finally got ministerial approval to publicly notify in April this year. Following that, Council at its meeting in May endorsed the proposed amendments for public notification. We commenced public notification in late May for a six-week period. It was then extended another two weeks, so the consultation period went from late May to late July. We undertook a very comprehensive notification and engagement program. We had public notices, media releases, radio interviews. We had dedicated Your Say page, web The had 12 fact sheets, and Q &As. We had all the draft amendments on there in track form, as well as mapping changes, a range of other explanatory material, including how the provisions of the extra story for affordable housing might look in demographic form. We had undertook seven pop-ups throughout the Shire and we spoke to hundreds of people at those pop-ups. We had an open-door policy so people came in, spoke to us, phoned us, emailed us, asked for meetings with us and we engaged with a lot of people through that process. We specifically notified by letter anyone with proposed zone change as well as all the adjoining owners as well. We also notified all the community groups, industry we had an industry stakeholder briefing. As well, group briefing. So the range of engagement was quite extensive during that eight week period and we know we had thousands of hits on the Your Say Page and many downloads of information so it was quite extensive. So as a result of that we've received 475 submissions many of which addressed multiple issues. We also had one online petition with 600 signatories. All the submissions have been A table of submissions in attachment 1 and that table has a summary of the submission as well as a response and then a recommendation as to whether a proposed change is recommended or not. There was a huge range of issues but we have synthesized it into really 10 key issue areas that some of which have resulted in recommended changes some which have not. Are the Noosa Junction Hospitality Precinct in terms of hours of operation extension and amplified music definition, the Noosa Business Centre short-term accommodation as an inconsistent use medium and high density residential and centre zones. The Tourism Accommodation Zone review with specific sites being proposed to be rezoned. Dwelling houses becoming inconsistent in the zones. The size of small dwellings, mandatory small dwellings and dual occupancy becoming inconsistent in medium density residential zones on lots 600 square metres or Anita Lakeland 05:39.215
The affordable rental premises definition and proposed provisions associated bonus provisions including the additional height on certain sites the environmental conservation and management zone changes resulting from Voluntary Conservation Agreements and the setbacks associated with that and community facilities zone around affordable housing there are some of those issues has have resulted in recommended changes they're outlined in the body of the report as well as in attachment to where they're itemised and numbered for reference there's an additional attachment three which is minor clarification and errors and miscellaneous that stuff we've identified either through a submission or just ourselves which have no policy implication but are also listed there it's an opportunity to make those changes as well so following in terms of process endorsement of the revised amendments a consultation report will be prepared Kim Rawlings 06:52.275
Which will be made available for the public on council's website and every submitter will be notified of that and they can search their submission number and see how their been addressed and what the recommendation was and what council's decision is today. This together with some other formality reports will be submitted to the State government and for ministerial approval for adoption. It's the following ministerial approval a further report Council for final adoption. So I guess that an overview in terms of going through the changes. We could go listed in attachment 2 and have a discussion around that if you like. Do you want more detail on the changes in attachment 2? To or do you want to or oh, look we'll have another question there's probably Councillors who would like. So, just before we do that, then I might just add to that. Yes. Thanks, Anita. Just to remind councils about the stage we're at, Anita has talked about the process, but I just did want to emphasise that we are say at the stage of council's consideration, we follow a very clear and strict legislative process that is governed by the ministerial rules that guide an amendment process, and this is the stage where it's councils' consideration at this stage. We've been through extensive community engagement. This stage is not about further Council considering all of the information and the submissions and weighing up all of those issues in terms of how you would like to move forward. Frank Wilkie 08:37.840
I'm glad you clarified that. There seems to be some confusion about whether this is an opportunity for further submissions from the public. That's right. Kim Rawlings 08:45.520
It's not. That's not the purpose of this stage. The we did extensive community engagement. It was extended. This is very much now, as specified in the ministerial rules, that Council is now required to consider those submissions, consider any changes in response to those submissions and consider how they would like to move forward, how Council and submit that to the State for then consideration. That is what this stage is about. So, you know, it's really important for you to remember that. You know, you've also been involved in hours of workshops. I think we've had just under 15 going through each of the issues. You know, this is not. This has not been a rushed process. We've had months and of considering submissions. You can see how many people around the table have been involved in reading all 450 submissions, hours of discussion and analysis and consideration about how best to respond to those submissions and the changes we will make. We've taken you through all of those changes step by I'm step going to over a series give you of a little bit a workshops. Quick know just to I guess reinforce the very strategic nature of this amendment. Has number of things in it but strategically it is about advancing your Housing Strategy. It's also about you know, maintaining your commitment to strengthening your approach to managing short stay. You know two very important aspects for our community and this package of amendments advances those. So you know I would also say that the amendment process train has been in change for three years and there is a lot in this that is necessary for to advance for our community. We need to obviously consider all the issues that the submitters have raised but we also need to ensure that our planning scheme continues to be a framework. That guides the future and provides a strong framework to guide our development going forward. So I would urge you to consider how long these amendments have been in consideration in information as you consider you know this really important package of amendments today. Karen. Karen Finzel 11:23.400
Thank you. Just Through the Chair to the seat. A question CEO given the number of emails I've received with regards to notification of this meeting. Can you just let me know at what date was it posted at this Special Meeting? That was to happen? Amelia Lorentson 11:43.506
It's a good question to ask. So we're sorry SPEAKER_01 11:55.341
Thank you Through the Chair. We're obliged to give two days notice for special meetings, but this has been. Officially. We notified on Monday, I believe. Thank you. Frank Wilkie 12:06.780
Look, to get the ball rolling and move I'd the process along. Like to move a motion. It's the staff recommendation along with technical amendment to correct an error, a small error that was detected in there. So I'll read the change which is to section C under section 19.1 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules endorse the changes proposed to Amendment No. 2 to Noosa Plan 2020 as outlined in this report and summarised in attachment two and attachment three and authorised the CEO to make the changes and any other consequential as required prior to submitting to the State government with the correction of an error in attachment two, page three, item seven, second dot point that should read optional development bonuses including an additional store of two metres in height on key sites if providing 20 of the total GFA as affordable rental premises. The error had it at 10%. May I have a seconder for this, please? Thank you, Councillor Wegener. Wegener. Look Councillors I think we're at the point at the pointy end of what might perhaps have been the longest planning scheme amendment process in the Noosa Council history. There are elements that were beyond our control with the amount of time that these amendments were held up with the State. We also willingly extended the consultation period and there was caretaker period also with the State government. Was the number of submissions that staff went through, also the time that they spent engaging with Councillors through a series of workshops, 15 hours of workshops where every element was clearly explained. So these amendments to the planning scheme seek to improve housing choice and affordability for residents and key workers. I thank the community and the industry for their patience over this unusually protracted process. Today we finally can give industry and residents some certainty about short-term accommodation. Provision of affordable housing incentives and dwelling supply. These amendments take on board the impacts of short-term accommodation as recommended in the monitoring report and Noosa Housing Strategy in 2022. To further term accommodation to medium, high, rural, and residential neighbourhoods and business centres. Incentives are proposed for landowners to provide affordable rental accommodation in conjunction with community housing providers as well as amendments to promote the construction of a range of different dwelling sizes to suit budgets. The amendments help ensure all residential neighbourhoods work as intended, having taken on board resident feedback during consultation, changing the amendments to permit houses and duplex on small lots and medium density zones up to 500 square metres and 1,000 square metres respectively. Houses and duplexes. Council sent these proposed amendments to the State interest review April 2023. They were with the State until early this year and were not available for public consultation until May 2024, when a six-week consultation period two weeks longer than required was extended for an extra two weeks. The State have signed off that these amendments are in alignment with and comply with state policy, which includes providing for adequate lands to support housing to meet the needs of our community and economic considerations, which they also meet legislative requirements. Now, there is some confusion in the community that this is also another consultation period and that submissions are to be taken on board to this phase. The submissions have been during the extended eight-week period. The feedback from those submissions during the formal period have been worked into the final recommendations of staff and we are now in the decision-making phase. I thank the staff for their patience and their enormous amount of work that's gone into this and the community and industry for their patients during this protracted period. I endorse the recommendations as contained in the report. Any other questions or people who wish to speak to the motion? Councillor Phillips. Jessica Phillips 16:43.709
Thank you. Good morning. Thank you very much for the reports. I just want to clarify something because I spent up to 2am. Going through submissions again. With what I see in the attachment, does that include the 300 people from pop-ups and the additional 80? Public inquiries over the phone all through that document? Kim Rawlings 17:07.239
Through the Chair, no, unless it was a written submission it hasn't in that. So a lot of people came to us and discussed some issues and some may have put that into a written submission which is considered in that document. Others felt their answers had been, that they got their answers throughout the engagement and they've not to make a submission. Jessica Phillips 17:36.914
Can Another question then to follow that up. So as a Councillor I can't have, I get that information at some point around what this, was discussed out of those 300 pop-ups and the 85 phone calls, or is that? Through the Chair? No were informal discussions and we advised them if they wanted to take it further they could make a written submission so it was more an inquiry based discussion a lot of the time. Okay thanks for clarifying. So then my follow-up question around the 475 submissions that I was trying to read through last night. How many was the outcome being that the recommendation from was a recommendation Council that we will make changes? Does that make sense? So when I was reading through it we've got recommendations on the column that says, I think the first page, that no change be made to the proposed amendments as result of this submission out of the 475 how many changes did we make? SPEAKER_04 18:40.579
I couldn't give you that number off the top of my head, Jess. Richard MacGillivray 18:45.119
We'd have to go through and. Attachment 2 has the changes. Kim Rawlings 18:49.379
Yeah, so attachment 2 lists the ones that we've made changes to and then says which ones we haven't. So it's in that. But off the top of my head, unless any of you know what that number might be. I don't know what the split is. You will see in the attachment 2 that there are a number of submissions around the same issue. So, you know, we might have got 80 submissions around a similar issue and there's been a change made in response to that. So, table 2 is very clear about where the submission has resulted in a change and hasn't In terms of the exact numbers, I couldn't give you that, Jess. I'd have to go through and count them. Jessica Phillips 19:28.183
Well, I tried to count them, just given that I went through each one and then highlighted where we changed and where we didn't. And I don't want to quote this number because it might not be right. I was hoping you would, but I had 18 changes. So I guess my follow-up question to 470. That is, would it be common out of 475 submissions that we would only make such a small change from the community's voice? Kim Rawlings 19:54.356
Yeah, like I just said, we had about, you know, on some issues, 18 resulting in changes. It's fairly substantial changes. It's not like there's just 18 changes. There's a group of changes. So there's a number of changes through the scheme. And we may have had 80 submissions on one of those change. Frank Wilkie 20:14.361
So 80 submissions could have resulted in one change. SPEAKER_04 20:17.221
So it's not accurate to say we've made 18 changes in response to submissions. 450 Frank Wilkie 20:27.930
Just to clarify, that's because there are similar themes things that arise through the 400 submissions. SPEAKER_04 20:33.947
That's exactly right. Amelia Lorentson 20:38.032
Councillor Lorentson. Just in terms of the attachment with the list of submissions, I might have missed it but that was the first time that came to my attention. Was it the Councillors were privy to the submissions? 136-page Kim Rawlings 21:02.137
Yes, as a consolidated lot, yes, that is the first time you've had those submissions. Obviously many of you were forward many of the submissions, forwarded us so you have had some of them, and we also went through the submissions at each of the workshops. Amelia Lorentson 21:25.999
Just for clarity workshops are not decision-making forums, is that correct? Yeah, that's absolutely correct, yeah. And again, for clarity, and only because always brought up in community where councils have workshops and there's an implication that we, the reports that come in front of us are endorsed by us, the level of detail that is today, that often gets provided in the reports, is that correct? Kim Rawlings 21:59.342
The reports do often contain a lot more detail because they've got attachments things. I never, yeah, I absolutely have not suggested or meant to infer that are decision-making, they are not, but what they are is an opportunity to take you through the range of issues that have come up, through submissions, put a range of options and workshop them. Which is exactly what we did. Frank Wilkie 22:34.536
Any further questions? Anyone who wants to speak to the motion, move the amendment? Nicola Wilson 22:41.127
Councillor Wilson can I move a perspective? Procedural to defer the matter? Councillor Wilson, Wilson, you have four. The floor. Thank you. Our standing order is 4.2. State that agendas should be made available to Councillors as early as practical to allow Councillors sufficient time to consider items on the agenda. When we had the workshops, our final workshops on this matter, I did request that we get more than two days to be able to read the report, and at that time I had no idea how extensive that report would be. We have worked through workshops on summaries of the submissions and the issues and the proposed recommendations but this was the first time we actually got to submissions in detail and I feel like I'm not able to do my duty as a Councillor without being able to read those more thoroughly. So I've spent a lot of time the last two days reading those submissions but I'm still not sure I can really. Hand on heart say whether all of those submissions have been addressed in the report and therefore whether I agree with some of the recommendations made I have made raised concerns before about having special meetings and only having two days notice and partly because Councillors do have other commitments in the diary and that makes it very difficult to actually drop everything and read 167 pages thoroughly and really understand them. So I really feel like I'm not doing my due diligence as a Councillor if we to vote on these matters today. Frank Wilkie 24:42.897
Councillor Stockwell. Brian Stockwell 24:44.277
I'll give the alternate view. Is in reading the report and looking at the have attachments I no new information that didn't receive as part of the 15 hours of workshops the staff have accurately portrayed verbally what the key issues are clearly articulated what the issues 457 submissions were in a clear and concise way the report is clearly set out as to what are the substantive changes from that which was advertised and the reasons for it. A Councillor we sit here as a board making strategic decisions. I'm of complete faith in the strategic planning team that they have accurately and fairly assessed more submissions as a result of the community's input which has been stated was extensive opportunity. There is nothing in this report or the attachments that are at variance to what has been verbally advised councillors in the several workshops. And nothing in terms of what has been recommended change that has come as a surprise. What this vote will come down to is clear, some Councillors have identified just a few issues they would like to see a different approach. That's what we should be discussing today. The need to read every word of the large submissions table is a choice you the make. Ability to assess those, to rapidly look at those submissions, to check what the applicant or the submitter has said and to look what the response and to see that's consistent with what's in the report is something that didn't take me many hours. It's something I've perhaps got a fair bit of experience that I could do within a reasonable timeframe since this agenda came out. I believe, as staff have said, we've had an extended period and now we're looking at what are the key changes as a result of submissions I think that is something that should be take time today in analysing and determine at the end of the proceedings whether it is necessary to defer because from my understanding. Think most that's Councillors what around I the table are very do, clear about and I support it. Frank Wilkie 27:19.238
I have a technical question. If this procedural motion lapses are we able to. And we have an open discussion and all questions are asked and information can be shared at this opportunity. Is there an opportunity to move another procedural motion to the third at the end rather than the start of okay, so I'll speak to this motion at this stage. I think for us to shut the meeting down now and move it to another date before all Councillors have an opportunity to ask all the questions they want to ask in open forum with a gallery and live audience I think it's a missed opportunity and it's akin to gagging debate and it will be a missed opportunity so if at the end of today's session is still appetite for deferring I think that would be the session there time to move a deferral motion so at this point I'm not willing to support this procedural motion. Tom Wegener 28:29.541
Yeah this was the plan today that's my understanding was to go through we have our fantastic staff here today we got plenty of time let's just go through ask our questions before the deferral we all have some questions to ask let's move through this let's um take advantage of this opportunity instead of just deferring it for a few days Amelia Lorentson 28:50.436
I also agree we've already flagged that there will be deferral motion up for debate at the end of the meeting again I think let's not waste you know it's a really good opportunity to discuss and understand better the decisions that we postponing for next week to make this is an opportunity I think we all need. Frank Wilkie 29:22.039
Any other Councillors wish to speak to the motion? Karen Finzel 29:25.119
Just to clarify is there an opportunity to suspend the Standing Orders while we do the discussion and the questions? It's you got me too? Just you don't need to? Frank Wilkie 29:38.127
Okay. Just in answer to your question, Councillor Finzel, Standing Orders allow questions to be asked as part of the formal debate as well. Any number of questions that you have, you're free to ask. Karen Finzel 29:49.762
Thank you Mr Mayor, just seeking clarification on the process. Thank you. Frank Wilkie 29:54.002
Thank you. Any other Councillors wish to speak to this procedural motion? Councillor Councillor Wilson, to close. Nicola Wilson 30:05.953
Yes, the reason I raise it now is it seemed like we were about to start putting through amended motions and things and I didn't feel equipped for that part of the debate at this point and so I'm still seeking time to actually keep on reading the submissions that we've had and therefore I've had questions answered by email and satisfactorily but I don't necessarily see the benefit of having questions through a debate when there's still information that I'm trying to read and absorb. Frank Wilkie 30:41.969
I'll put it to the vote. Those in favour of deferring? That's Councillor Wilson. Those against? That's Councillor Finzel, Stockwell, Lawrence and Wegener, Phillips and Wilkie. Notions lost. So we go back to questions or amendments. If any Councillors wish to test amendments. Councillor Lorentson. I will. I'll test an amendment. Amelia Lorentson 31:08.425
Which one do you have for me? Kabi, thank you. That item C be amended to read C under section 19.1 of the Minister's Guidelines and Rules. I might just read my changes if that's okay. With proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 1. And attachment 1 should be replaced with the following. A. The current, this is in regards to the Noosa lease injunction. Precinct, operation of hours and definition of amplified music. Should be identified as 1. And attachment 2. Retain the current hours of operations in the hospitality precinct for food and drink outlets until investigation have been undertaken into suitable precinct management frameworks as per the notice of motion endorsed by Council on October 2024. B. No amplified music is to be considered on site indoor /outdoor beyond 9pm unless treated acoustically to appropriate level until investigation. Once these investigations have been completed, consider any recommendation including changing operating hours for food and drink outlets in the Noosa Junction Hospitality Precinct as part of a future planning scheme amendment to the Noosa Plan 2020. SPEAKER_01 32:44.303
It supposed to have the word 'no' at the bottom? Is it not to be located in the middle of the floor? Frank Wilkie 32:50.503
Okay, we have a seconder for Councillor Lorentson's amendment please. I'll second. Councillor Phillips, Lorentson. Amelia Lorentson 33:01.183
The proposed planning amendments have caused some concern across the Shire. I I've put in front of us is a more balanced approach that considers both the interests of residents and business owners. Residents have come, made deputations, submitted feedback and have expressed concerns about potential noise and disturbance. From extended operating hours of food and drink. Maintaining the status quo until or allowing time for thorough investigations or insuitable management frameworks I believe is the better forum to address be of extending the hours. I think we need to really understand the real impact of the proposed changes. That needs to be fully understood. And there's lots of we need to understand. I think I sort of started when I read this, I needed to understand where's the data? What are the implications? If we do extend the hours, what does that mean in terms of how many more restaurants? And part of my I discovered that a lot of these businesses have interchangeable use rights. Mean that you can have an adult shop or an office or a health care service that can vary the business types at any time. And what I was concerned with if allowed operating hours 'til midnight, does that mean that we may have health care services open 'til midnight? Adult shops So I really wanted the opportunity to unpack that. Also in terms of the amplified music, that also raised bit of concern with some of the small businesses, in specifically the requirement that the sites have got to be acoustically treated to appropriate levels. Again, my amendment requests deferral and to revisit we look into investigating precinct management frameworks. I believe that we've not adequately consulted with the small business owners, particularly with this part C, sorry part B, in terms of acoustically treated levels. I think including a provision like this without thorough consultation may present, you know, sort of onerous requirements small businesses. I just think that we risk causing a bit of division in the community and creating just angst amongst the business, small owners. Businesses need our support and I think that support must include a thoughtful understanding of how these sorts of conditions can impact and potentially jeopardise their operations. So what I urge is a deferral and that we look at this and we talk, consult with stakeholders, residents and business owners as part of our investigation into precinct management and frameworks. Thank you, Councillor Lorentson. Frank Wilkie 36:52.907
Just to move things along, I really appreciate what add Councillor Lorentson is trying to do in terms of investigate further what needs to happen down there, but I think deferring just adds to, deferring is going to drag out an inequitable situation that's existing down there that we're trying to address, and to the confusion. Currently, the inequity that some businesses can operate till midnight, others cannot. This amendment seeks to make it 12 midnight, 7 days a week for all businesses in the junction. Also, it seeks to give some certainty about amplified music down there, because current. Hours in current planning scheme, they're a little bit ambiguous, hard to understand. Now, if we ratify the amendments today, that does not preclude further investigations being done. There will be some certainty until any changes that need to be done as part of future planning scheme amendments to the Noosa Plan 2020 are done. So, if we ratify it today, we can have some certainty, address an inequity, we can do the investigation and make any future changes that come out of that investigation as part of future planning scheme amendments. So, I'm not supporting this amendment because I believe it will allow an inequity and confusion to continue to exist in the junction and it doesn't stop future investigations taking place and future planning scheme amendments. Brian Stockwell 38:24.538
Can I just ask a question? There was some changing in what was on the screen and the whole motion wasn't read out and I suppose it has be to staff because I know you assisted it. The item refers to the proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 1. In attachment 2. Item 1 there is a 1. A 1.2, a 1.3 and a 1.4. The way Councillor Lorentson was speaking I All right. That she was thinking that items 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 are also being amended but that's not how the motion reads. Can you clarify please? Yes, Kim Rawlings 39:15.477
Stockwell, you're correct. That is what the intention of what Councillor Lorentson was hoping to achieve is my understanding, Councillor Lorentson? So that would need to capture in a 1.2, 1.3 just.2, 1.3. Thank you. Brian Stockwell 39:42.233
The Council has to be happy with that thing. You're happy with those changes, Councillor you thank you very much, yes. No, the whole Council is happy with the Standing Orders. Frank Wilkie 39:51.113
All right. Councillors happy with that technical amendment to make it more accurate and correct? I don't think it's about you Sir. I agree. Just in consensus. Jessica Phillips 40:05.245
I'd like to seek some clarification maybe, Chair, just when I think about the junction precinct, I feel like there's two elements to that. There's the amplified music and then it's trading. Councillor Phillips, are you addressing the question about changing the amendment to 1.2, 1.3? It probably will relate to that because I want clarification around whether this amendment will seek to bring, let me get there. The question is around the current proposed amendment. To bring everyone on par with the music. Does Councillor Lorentson. It's probably a question to you. Does this bring the music, amplified on par. This to address that every site should be on an equitable playing field? Can I clarify? The music and the hours of operation are two separate things. Can you clearly tell me how this motion defines the two, please? Kim Rawlings 41:18.057
So that Councillor Lorentson is seeking to address two things. One is the hours of operation, which is the level playing field that the Mayor spoke about and then and secondly, two is how amplified music is treated going forward in the junction. This motion seeks to pick out both of those, there's two separate amendments in the planning scheme. And defer them until precinct wide management considerations are done and that both of those things, hours of operation and how amplified music is treated are dealt with at a later stage. Thank Okay, you for clarifying that. Frank Wilkie 41:59.124
Are you comfortable with 1.2, 1.3? Jessica Phillips 42:10.764
I am yes. Thank you for the clarity. Councillor Finzel. Karen Finzel 42:02.044
Yes, thank you. Just for clarification around the process, and I guess it's a question, I guess, Through the Chair to the CEO, or it could be staff. In it says any change to the extent the hospitality precinct would be considered a significant change and require further public notification, and therefore cannot be considered as part of this amendment process. I'm just concerned. Like where I like Councillor Lorentson's going with this, to get clarity on a complex issue, which would also include going back to community consultation, and we need to do that in a meaningful manner. So is so, this is this part of the process that we should be, like, debating this matter today, or is it too significant and it should be deferred to another time? Unknown 42:58.872
Thanks for the question, good Kim Rawlings 43:02.244
For clarification, the reference to the change to the hospitality precinct being a significant change was about a submission that requested an extension of the boundary of the hospitality precinct be to included in that was considered and a two significant change so it actually refers to a different issue Councillor Finzel. Brian Stockwell 43:26.256
Further clarification in summary table two we have as I mentioned before 1. To 1.4 on the left hand column it says introduce a new definition of ample for amplified music to enable application of the same provisions as live music to amplified music does this amendment in your opinion affect whether that definition goes in or not? I no no I don't think so I think it's still necessary to have clarity around the definition so just to carry that the omnibus recommendation would still cover that definition just did there's something down here. The right hand column so I'm wondering if it is picked up as a part of the recommendation Amelia Lorentson 44:26.396
Not Kim Rawlings 44:26.396
Listed in column the right-hand column because there is no proposed change to what was proposed which is a definition for amplified music SPEAKER_09_b 44:35.411
That was in the amendments to the public yeah thank you Amelia Lorentson 44:41.850
Personal answer I'm so just question so if this amendment doesn't does go through my question is what are the implications if we do allow businesses to operate till midnight understanding that a lot of these businesses have interchangeable use rights and can I first ask two questions you clarify what interchangeable use rights are and whether what I said earlier you know an office or a cafe that's operating today could potentially to an a office at an adult child health service store without my understanding is they don't need to come to Council for approval that interchangeable use right allows them to do it to provide flexibility and I think that's great but I again I think it's important that we understand the economic social implications of excuse me so my question is you can you give me numbers many how businesses are we going to see in the next four years or the next 12 months that are going to be operating till midnight? Kim Rawlings 45:58.884
I'm going to your previous question first around what it means to be able to interchange business uses in a centre zone. In the Noosa Plan 2020 we made a substantial shift to enable flexibility for businesses in centres change, you know, over time, change tendencies. If you originally opened up an office and then over time wanted to change that to a cafe, you could do that without needing to apply to Council again. SPEAKER_04 46:31.063
In terms of hours of operation, that specifically relates to the food and drink. So it doesn't relate to hours of operation to a adult shop or a health food shop or an office. So the hours of operation don't carry over if you change use. This is specifically little just also I'm harking back to another question that was in what you talked about Kim Rawlings 46:58.094
In terms of what it actually means to change the hours and Michelle can I ask you to talk to that and I'll loop back to the question of numbers if it's still needed Michelle 47:10.142
So Through the Chair so with the interchangeable use obviously they don't come to Council but they do need to it's called accepted development subject to requirements and there's specific requirements set out in the table of assessment in the planning scheme and they're acceptable outcome provisions and they still have to comply with those acceptable outcomes so it's not just changing and then they can do what they want to they really still need planning scheme operation hours is one of those acceptable hours. Outcomes so if they wanted to change from an office to a food and drink and they comply with all those AOs in the planning scheme they don't need to come to Council and one of those AOs would be that new change to operation so they could operate till midnight seven days a week but obviously they need to comply with provisions in the planning scheme under that AO around those noise conditions. Thank you that's great explanation. Brian Stockwell 48:13.238
One more point of clarification, I think it's the last one. 1.3, which has now been deleted. Terms of the submission recommendation read: amend amplified music provisions to apply to inside and outside the venue unless acoustically treated in appropriate levels. Can you explain does to me what not including that this amendment does in terms of, is there any loopholes we're trying to address? What was the reason that amendment was put through and what would be the implications of the change? Michelle 48:46.658
Through the Chair, that change would allow currently under the planning scheme the operationals for amplified live music only apply to outside a venue and not inside so this was ensuring that both inside and outside the venue that Brian Stockwell 49:04.725
Just follow up. So the problem being addressed is the noise nuisance and that noise nuisance can come just as much from inside as it was open and could be treated as a canton on the outdoor dining area. Is that what we're talking about? That's correct, yes. Thank you. Amelia Lorentson 49:22.977
Can I ask, have the property owners, those that do have live music inside their premises, are they aware of this change? Michelle 49:37.037
So this change was advertised. Oh, that wasn't advertised, no, so it would be an amendment, but currently the noise issues are obviously through liquor licensing and gaming, and they're the compliance authority. So in terms of the provision, they still need to comply with the liquor licensing approvals today. So we're just saying that they need to comply to the liquor licensing rules regardless. We only look at operation hours, so the provision is still compliant. They still need to meet those requirements under liquor licensing in terms of noise. Amelia Lorentson 50:19.529
So is the inclusion then redundant? Do we need it? Michelle 50:24.929
I think Through the Chair it just provides more clarity and certainty around what's in the plan. That issue we have with the confusion around liquor licensing and operation hours and amplifying music, I think it just provides clarity for people that, you know, amplifying noise leaving the site, whether it's inside or outside, needs to comply with the liquor licensing provisions. Amelia Lorentson 50:46.181
Would deferring consideration of these changes to a future planning scheme, probably my question is, when is the next package of planning amendments? Can't going too fast. But I'm, but that needs be made clear, because again, I think there's a misunderstanding that we've got to wait four years. The deferment could be until next year. Kim Rawlings 51:14.137
Yeah, look, as Councillors would know, this is a continuous process. We are always updating, reviewing, maintaining the planning scheme. So we already, even though this amendment package is not finished, we've already started the list of the next round of amendment package. So it is a rolling cycle. I can tell you that for the sanity of these fabulous people. Won't be starting that until this one's finished, but it's a roll, you know, it's not another four years away. The process will start next year, but this one's taking three years, remember. Amelia Lorentson 51:54.929
In terms of the notified motion, Kim, so we've endorsed through Council notification, notified motions to investigate precinct management frameworks and we've had, actually done quite a bit in that space at the moment. Would, in your opinion, would deferring these two matters and bringing them to, you know, a business framework discussion with all stakeholders, residents, business owners, small businesses, impacted residents, not impacted residents, would you consider that to be an appropriate? Forum to tease out or at least understand the implications of what's been suggested? Kim Rawlings 52:42.681
I'm not going to exactly answer your question, but what I will say is there are a couple of things to balance here. Yes, absolutely, looking at a precinct-wide approach for the issues at the junction is a great strategic way to and the nature of businesses, noise, impacts, hours of operation, all of that will be part of that consideration. But balancing that, we have got some inequities and not a level playing field that is occurring at the moment for businesses in the junction. The original intent of this amendment was in response to business needs in the junction so these amendments seek to be responsive to that. So deferring them could also have implications to businesses who currently say they can't actually properly function for instance businesses that have two lucky enough and popular enough to be running two sittings they can't do it functionally within the hours so there they're are a range of things that need to be considered here about you know which is that which is best approach you know so these amendments would respond to that and given we are there's no certainty around the time frame for this next phase of the process the precinct management approach and future amendments in terms of timing I think yeah I'm avoiding the answer because you need to weigh it up. Amelia Lorentson 54:33.987
Can I ask, I think we had an application to Council a few years back one of the restaurants Herbert, excellent restaurant unfortunately longer their excellent restaurant but at the time they came to Council and requested extended hours can that still be given that even if we endorse the amendments today there is still a process so it still has to go back to state public interest like there's a process before these are actually ratified and up and running Kim Rawlings 55:04.415
Yeah there's definitely a process still to go it's got to go back to the State for consideration minister and then back here so there's some months. Richard do you want to talk about the process? Richard MacGillivray 55:19.936
The Chair there is obviously a process where anyone can apply to seek a variation or change of use or a change to their conditions obviously that has to be assessed on its individual merits terms of what scheme of objectives are being sought obviously you know it's in our views if better if the scheme is leading what those expectations are as opposed to you know specific sites noting that you've got to look at the wider context as part of that assessment but it doesn't preclude any applicant lodging an application at any time and we'll have to assess that on its merits. Frank Wilkie 55:55.154
If applicant it's an wanted to take that course wouldn't there be money involved whereas if we gave them the certainties for the planning scheme Brian Stockwell 56:03.410
As a almost as right yeah that's correct yeah so that's exactly sorry I did find another what I think was a consequence of the amendment that is something we need to think about and that in 1.2 has similar words to be except in 1.2 it talks about that applying from through Sunday. To Thursday so is the if this amendment was to go through it would mean new businesses couldn't only operate at 9:00pm. Seven days a week rather than the current requirements in the current scheme that allows extra operating and noise and music after the hours of 9:00pm. On Friday and Saturday and would that be a reduction in any new business it'd be a diminution of what any other business set up to date would have Michelle 56:54.714
Through the Chair the current operation hours for food and drink in the hospitality precinct are till 10pm. Sunday through Thursday and then 12 Friday and Saturday so they would be the operation hours yeah yeah that would be applied. Brian Stockwell 57:14.926
So the answer is yes this amendment A and B actually would reduce they couldn't go to 12pm. Friday and Saturday because it says a name for mine and my music is located on site beyond 9pm. But it doesn't specify any different arrangements for Friday and Saturday night does it? Jessica Phillips 57:32.754
That was that pretty much my question at the very start because I was trying to clarify whether this changed the trading hours or the amplified music hours because of that exact I just didn't answer it the way I wanted it to after a late night reading amendment so sorry can I have some clarification around that please that's deal. Amelia Lorentson 57:59.593
Wasn't the intent of the motion there was no intent to reduce the hours so I think that was just little sleep communicating the middle of the night and this is the outcome why a deferral motion and respecting what the Councillor Wilson said before that we really need time to digest but no that's just an error that was supposed to be included. Jessica Phillips 58:30.725
I want to support everything that Councillor Lorentson said I just want clarity around the operation hours in it. Amelia Lorentson 58:37.805
That's all I'm asking because I think everything makes sense. Thank you. Can I ask Through the Chair whether Council would make the changes, the technical changes to catch up that there is no reduction in amplified music over the weekend, that status quo remains? Thank you. Thanks. You. Frank Wilkie 59:07.065
We'll pick up. Councillor Stockwell, Thank you. Brian Stockwell 59:09.945
Are we all happy? The one in turn looks at changing a bit of line, but if that was the intent, we'd better capture it. Amelia Lorentson 59:18.205
Thank you. Karen Finzel 59:29.449
I'm a bit uncertain. I just want to make sure that if we're going to proceed forward with debate and discussion around this, that we have that wording correct. I do feel a little bit unsettled. I feel it's like on the hop. I feel personally more comfortable if we, yeah, were. Proposal. Respecting the proposed changes in response to public submissions, like even with the removal of 1.3 with the amplified music provisions. I'm happy to move forward if people are happy with this wording. I just feel that, like I said, I feel like we're trying to address a broader complex issue around a precinct management framework that I personally feel could be better managed if it was offline and we were actually, you know, really taking. On board what the public submissions have said about this, the complexities that even ourselves here at the table are going. Is that operating hours? Is that amplified music? I just feel personally that we're getting into, you know, real. Policy changes, looking at management precincts, which is a huge body of work, which includes consultation, meaningful process again. So I just want to make sure that if we're going to continue this debate and questions that I'd like to see through the staff that they're comfortable with that wording, that we have worded it correctly to continue Kim Rawlings 01:01:08.188
Can I just confirm that the proposed amendments relating to the hospitality precinct in Noosa Junction related to hours of operation. And amplified music, I think what this is saying is that we retain the current provisions and we don't move forward with those changes until a precinct approach has been done. SPEAKER_09_b 01:01:31.148
I think it might be just one alternate. Recommendation, which, yeah, is what I'm thinking. Amelia Lorentson 01:01:31.808
It doesn't work, that's what you're saying. Fun, not that this is going to not happen. I believe in equity, so, you know, operations of ours, I would see love to that happen, but I just feel that at the moment, the best course, okay, so, but I'm responding to the answer. That is the intent, Anita, so retain the status quo and give further consideration and also opportunity to. The potentially affected property owners in terms of the acoustic treatment and in response to Councillor Finzel, respect what you're saying, but what I've proposed is actually reflection of those very, very many submissions that are made in 136 pages for the adjoining residents that are concerned of impacts and so I think this is balanced or more, the balanced approach. It respects feedback from the residents in the surrounding areas and it also respects property owners who I've been notified in the last 12 hours. Can I have a comment? Thank you. Frank Wilkie 01:02:56.075
Councillor Finzel. Karen Finzel 01:02:57.235
Yes, a question Through the Chair to Councillor Lorentson. Thank you for the clarification and the intent. That's made it much more easier to understand where we're heading. So question, are you prepared to change this with the recommendation from the staff for the wording to make this more succinct to represent your intent? Amelia Lorentson 01:03:21.095
Absolutely happy. Retained status quo and further consideration is the intent again, really making clear that future planning scheme amendments have already started, so this can be Frank Wilkie 01:03:36.595
Included. Just to dispel any confusion that may be occurring here, is the staff's position that the planned amendments about music to 9pm on west O 'Keefe street and 12 midnight for all food and drink already responds to business and residence submissions. And this would defer implementation of an amendment that responds to residence and business submissions. Staff recommendation is as per the report to proceed. SPEAKER_01 01:04:13.418
And this is saying we would not implement the staff recommendation, we would defer That's correct. Brian Stockwell 01:04:24.178
Yes, speak to the right of you. What we have in front of us now is basically 1.2 and 1.3 just stated in different terms. So the only substantive change that this amendment is 1. So the substantive change now is that there is a change to the music requirements so that it's 9pm Sunday to Thursday. What's not changed is the increased operating hours from 10 o'clock to midnight seven days a week. That is something that we did get lots of submissions on and I believe a lot of the submissions were based on the thinking that would also allow music to go from 10 to 12 o'clock. So this is one that I hadn't made up my mind whether it's a good thing or a bad thing. The argument is if you have a nice quiet restaurant that's popular they get to trade to midnight which is a you would want to put them through a large planning process. The reciprocal argument is even if they're acoustically treated if they're getting out and getting in their cars after midnight SPEAKER_05_b 01:05:48.644
That does disturb the surrounding residents. Now so I'm going to listen to the debate. Bike. SPEAKER_01 01:06:03.760
Are you changing your amendment? SPEAKER_04 01:06:06.420
We've given, there's new words. Amelia Lorentson 01:06:08.520
Oh with the new words that would be great, thank you. Karen Finzel 01:06:11.000
Do we have to say we're all agreeable to that amendment? Oh we've done that before. Thank you. Brian Stockwell 01:06:17.641
We're it's like. Couldn't do that well uh no I don't think so either what we couldn't say change to that SPEAKER_01 01:06:23.960
No I don't think so either. No. Oh, we're going to debate it. So you can move that again, thanks. Yeah. Yeah. If it's deferred to next week, then move it again. We can just, yeah. So you're voting on this amendment? Tom Wegener 01:06:40.398
I'll speak to the amendment just real quick. It seems to be clear that going through the whole process, we want to iron out the lumps, the unequal playing field in not the motion here, settles that. And I think that moving forward, what Amelia wants to do with the hospitality precinct, well, you can base it actually on structure of a level playing field. So let's get to the exactly what has been asked for community for years now and so that what the amendment gives us and just stick with that, thank you. That's Frank Wilkie 01:07:19.668
So just to clarify, the amendment you're referring to is the staff. Recommendation. You're not supporting this? No, I'm This is the motion. Amendment. It's the amendment that relates to the planning scheme amendment. Amelia Lorentson 01:07:39.961
Question Councillor Lorentson. Now can I just close, if alright? Frank Wilkie 01:07:43.322
That's all perhaps if no other Councillors wish to speak I guess you may close Councillor Lorentson. Amelia Lorentson 01:07:49.318
So Councillor Wegener I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying what I'm asking is that there is confusion still in our community in understanding what actually is being proposed so the amendment seeks to allow community residents to understand what's actually being proposed I don't think that is that's been made clear so not disagree with the equal level plan all I'm saying is can we just put it on post we have another process under underway an investigation in the precinct management framework where the intent of that is for every stakeholder to sit around table to discuss in a community manner the importance of live music a good night's sleep and getting along I just feel that by not supporting the this motion we're going to be creating division uncertainty and fear and in terms of small businesses what I'm so concerned with is that I have been notified that business owners unaware of these changes and we're playing with their business I know that you know it's encapsulated under the liquor and gaming regulations but as it's worded if I'm a business owner I'm thinking isn't the role of Council to support small business and reduce regulation are we and I'm not saying we are but I'm saying are we through our wording actually giving the you know giving them misconception that we're making it hard for businesses to operate not easy not easier so the amendment is not that it won't happen it's just can we put it on pause look at it as part of the investigation precinct management plan or just a future planning amendment which starts next year it's just putting it on pause for a few months not that it's not Frank Wilkie 01:10:14.580
Do we have any other amendments Councillor Wegener. Tom Wegener 01:10:21.640
Is. I have my little amendment which is just concerning the we'll find it up here. Concerning the Noosa Business Centre up there. We discussed having the 10 metre much. Just looking for it up here. Yeah. That item to be added to item C2 with the exception of the proposed change in response to public submission. 2.5, in addition to attachment 2, that this proposal change referring to a 7-metre landscape buffer along Hofmann Drive be removed from the amendments. And we've discussed this in the various meetings. We'll get you a signal in a second. Oh, yes. Thank you, Councillor Finzel. Yeah, just, Councillor Finzel saw that and said, we don't think that actually what came out of the meeting, and so we just want to go back to the original amendment, because that's what we feel is always agreed around the table. Jessica Phillips 01:11:34.000
This might be a bit quick now, I'm just going to show support for this, because I also agreed, and then that will move this one a little bit quicker. Frank Wilkie 01:11:35.420
Just clarifying the notes, do you mind? Yeah, and I'll just use my opportunity to speak to say that there was, my recollection was there was, among Councillors, there was a variety of views this stuff. Was the staff recommendation, not, in a sense, the Councillors, I just think it's very important to make that clarification. SPEAKER_05_b 01:12:11.393
I'll take the motion. Can imagine. Brian Stockwell 01:12:20.049
Way we currently relate to an application, there is a diversity of opinions about how to achieve the overall objectives. In that area, but because it's subject to appeal, I think the amendment that Council proposes is probably the safest way ahead. Frank Wilkie 01:12:45.807
To the amendment before Councillor Wegener, you wish to close, Councillor gwynne? No, thank you. Okay, I'll put the amendment to the vote. Those in favour? That is unanimous. Do we have any more proposed amendments, Councillor Lorentson? Amelia Lorentson 01:13:04.217
I have another amendment in relation to medium density residential zones. If I could have that up, please. Thank you. That item 234 will be added to item C2, the proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 4.1, 3.2 and attachment 2, and be replaced with 4.1, retain the current provisions of Noosa Plan 2020 that allows a dwelling house as accepted development subject to requirements in the medium and zones. Is this the correct wording, Kim? I'm unsure if this is It is? Yep. Regardless of lot size, can I have added that was to 4.1? Again? Yep. And three, the proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 6.2 and 6.3 in attachment 2 to be replaced with 6.2, retain the current provisions of Noosa Plan 2020. Allows dual occupancy as code assessment in the Noosa medium density residential zones, regardless of loss size. Can I get a second? By Councillor Wilson. Lawson. Set. This particular planning amendments caused widespread concerns across the Shire from Noosa Heads all the way to the hinterland. There was a petition presented to Council with over 600 signatures and multiple deputations. Council highlighting strong community opposition to these changes particularly in the medium density zones. The residents feel that these changes have created confusion and fear and the economic and social impacts they don't believe and I don't believe are fully understood. What has been requested through submissions and deputations is for the status quo to remain that allows single dwellings or duplexes on their land. Regardless of lot size to remain. Residents have expressed and submitted feedback that there was lack of proper notification and they have also expressed that this amendment in particular I'm quoting, was an erosion of property rights and a threat to Noosa character, a community character. They strongly oppose the restrictions on rebuilding single dwellings on medium density land, a property right that has been held long in Noosa. Many believe that the changes I'm feeling unfairly shift the responsibility for addressing housing issues onto individual landowners. The residents also make clear that they do support addressing housing supply. Diversity and affordability. They just reject an approach that potentially undermines their property rights. So the amendment in front of us reflects what I believe the community are asking for, which is that Council preserve their property rights and achieve a balance by retaining the status quo and still allowing multiple dwellings in medium density as an opt-in and Frank Wilkie 01:16:57.757
Is quite correct. We did receive a lot of submissions on this. Could you, when there were changes made to the proposed amendments as result of the submissions, would you please articulate what those proposed changes were in response to the submissions? Kim Rawlings 01:17:12.580
So there were two proposed proposals. Changes. One was that we recognised that on lots of 500, up to 500 square metres are small and it may be difficult to get a dual occupancy to work on those sites in some instances. We indicated that all three or more dwellings as well. So the change that we're proposing is that dwelling houses be consistent on lots up to 500 square metres. And inconsistent beyond that. And with regard to dual occupancies on medium density zoned land. The proposal, the proposed amendment was that dual occupancies were inconsistent on lots 600 square metres or greater. The proposed change is increased to 1000 in recognition that was coupled with our requirements that you had to also have three or more dwellings and recognising that on some of the smaller lots it may not work from a feasibility perspective so we opened up the flexibility there. You can still do if but it's an opt-in provision allowance basically. The purpose of the medium density zone is to provide for multiple dwellings. Frank Wilkie 01:18:40.084
Just to clarify, if you only want up to 1000 square metres which is sizable, you can still have a duplex? Correct. You can have multiple units? Correct. If you have a lot up to 500 square metres in a medium density zone, house? Correct. And also in high density zone, after 500 square metres- Okay, thank you. Brian Stockwell 01:19:05.755
The question about the implications if Councillor Wilson agreed to this amendment, we have.org community set for us in pernambuco in the tatari SEQ regional pane. Our panning scheme amendments were trying to achieve those targets in a way that kept the Noosa character. If this amendment would have been true, that would put a BID in our ability to meet the targets. SPEAKER_09_b 01:19:33.498
Ah, so that's correct. We have modelled our dwelling supply based on the highest and best use to be achieved on these lots. Medium and high density zones are specifically to deliver that smaller dwelling. Supply. So if these lots were to be underdeveloped for one or even two dwellings, then it would ultimately impact on what we deliver to make that housing supply target. Have to report on that annually to the State. SPEAKER_05_b 01:20:05.609
I'm going to speak against the amendment. The overarching driver for these amendments is the housing the amendments were framed to achieve an increase in housing choice and housing affordability. There's the supply of dwelling. In proximity to where employment is so that we can get unit accommodation for key workers. Brian Stockwell 01:20:42.219
We know from the State facilitated development process that and I policies of the incoming government, that the issue of providing housing is a high priority. And we know, or we have gained good commitments from the current government has as to do to use this scheme of amendments in the consideration of state facilitated development, that there is a range of other proposals embedded in the original plan. Proposals that the global government doesn't seem to be so that the State will come in over the top. One of those proposals, for example, is as the right new collectors throughout the low energy residential zone up to 30 storeys high. So the answer is we do have to made make our a hard decision. If we just continue to make decisions so that we can upset people, SPEAKER_05_b 01:21:42.774
Then other levels of government will make decisions that upset people. And most likely to a greater extent. The changes from what was advertised to what was proposed is a good middle ground. Brian Stockwell 01:22:00.952
The suggestion that you can't rebuild a house if it's burned down ignores the statutory right of all existing utilities. What the proposals are is for new development, for redevelopment, is that we're not turning the weekend a day residential zone into a zone where people build new mansions. We're trying to turn it into a zone that is allocated to achieve the sort of housing that is in considerable demand in Noosa. The fact that one- or two-bedroom units to meet the demand for the majority of our households, which are one or two people, is where we need to address these amendments. This is about creating housing choice. It affordability. A housing crisis. And yes, a change is the same. It doesn't address property rights. Your freehold property rights always relate to what the existing set of laws allow you to do. And the planning scheme has always faced certain limits. Scheme always make some changes. This, as proposed by staff, is a good compromise between what's advertised, it meets the objectives, and it is unlikely to make any significant change. To meeting those targets that we are asked to do in the SDG originally. Jessica Phillips 01:23:23.092
A couple of questions. Firstly, I wasn't able to get this information so if I could just any medium density sites exist under 500 square metres in Noosa? Richard MacGillivray 01:23:48.662
I could find the exact figure but I think it's 30 something from memory. Most of those are at Sunshine Beach. There's a historical subdivision behind where the Sunshine Beach shops are. But they're very very small lots. So most of them are in that area and already substantially developed with a house on edge. There's a few others, there's a couple at Noosaville, around longstown, but heard on that play plane. There in sosnovich. Jessica Phillips 01:24:27.925
Okay, so then I guess a follow-up question is, if these changes in the proposed amendments fail to incentivise development, then what's projected economic impact on council's revenue, including development, income and rates revenue assumptions for our project, is that the still term? SPEAKER_04 01:24:48.619
No, it's not possible to answer that on the spot, but as Rowena said, there's around 30 lots that we're talking about here. But no, that's not possible to provide you that information now. Brian Stockwell 01:25:02.471
Okay. 30 lots below 500, there's a large number between 500 and 1,000 which would make three place. Please. That's all I have to say. Amelia Lorentson 01:25:14.602
Just clarity. The continued allowance of multiple dwellings in medium and high density residential zones is still allowed under this. So this is an additional, it's basically what we're doing for some of the tourist zones. And I referenced, my question is, can I just seek some clarity that what has been proposed is retain the status quo plus the opportunity or the opt-in of building extra multiple buildings. It's not reducing the amount stockists. Councillor Stockwell sort of indicated, it's allowing residents rather than taking away their rights. Brian Stockwell 01:25:58.616
I don't think you should continue because it's not a question. Frank Wilkie 01:26:05.290
What would be the easiest way okay, to get to your point? Sorry, what order did you take it? I'm sorry, not actually asking Councillor Lorentson, so could you please just ask a question and answer. Amelia Lorentson 01:26:20.287
Thank you. Through the Chair, can I also address the tone of voice of Councillor Stockwell? I would like him to understand that his tone causes stress amongst gallery people and also amongst Councillors, and I request that he speaks respectfully to staff, Councillors and respect the people in the gallery. Frank Wilkie 01:26:46.085
The point of order was asking a question, not debating, so if you could stick to that. Have acknowledgement of first, please, and then Councillor Stockwell. Did you mind following your tone? Brian Stockwell 01:27:03.372
Yes, certainly, I apologise, I did get that. I did note that the Standing Orders were reached, and in the point of order, it is appropriate for Councillor to sit down while they're pointing to orders. A Councillor didn't wish further offence at any Standing Orders. So, as long as all Councillors have identified Standing Orders, then I will never keep my orders in the fire, and I'll say nothing of those things until I get Frank Wilkie 01:27:24.507
Back to my office. Thank you. Councillor Lorentson, could you ask your question? Amelia Lorentson 01:27:29.047
I will. But, Keith, can I ask if you could just clarify that what's being proposed is an addition, not an erosion of existing property rights. SPEAKER_04 01:27:44.326
What's being proposed by the amendment is not an addition, it's reverted status quo. What currently exists in the Noosa Plan. So it's not adding anything, or changing anything, it's reverting to the existing provisions. Frank Wilkie 01:28:02.565
I'd like to ask a question. During Councillor stockwell's comments, speech, he referred to the SEQ planning process. And he mentioned that there were intentions to. Introduce, propose and introduce, two level practices in medium density, sorry, could you just sort of expand on that in relation to what your experience with the State planners are and what pressure they are putting Noosa Council under and what the community may face if we don't. That my make our gal, Sonia Boyd, has intended. Kim Rawlings 01:28:57.910
Yes, we have been working with the State government for a long time around regional planning. As you know, a new A regional new plan was. Regional plan was developed last year. A major component of that about housing supply, diversity and delivery. That was really the key driver of that. And there was lots of. To and lots of pressure put on local governments to take more growth. And Noosa is not immune to that. We were required to take our fair share and to demonstrate able to meet the dwelling targets. And we had to do that in a very comprehensive and rigorous way. Manner. We had to submit a raft of information including a Housing Supply Statement to demonstrate that. Anita had said those dwelling targets then form a process of where we're monitored against They are the things that we are monitored against and you know it was very important for this Council and the work that we did that we were able to meet dwelling targets in a manner that was appropriate and of scale intensity to Noosa. To lifestyle, to character and you know to how our community expects our Shire to develop. So we were very careful and considerate in how we could meet the dwelling targets that worked with the zones. We had and used the zones that we have the way they're intended to be used for medium and high density housing. We have some of those zones that are not utilised to their full extent and that's okay, but over time, we are going to need those zones to meet what they're intended if meet our dwelling targets. We were able to satisfy the government of the day that to we had made enough changes. These amendments were part of satisfying we could meet dwelling targets. But there's no doubt that we have been given. Indications that there will be future pressures. This new government has already made statement that they will be reviewing a regional plan. That will happen in the next two years. So there will be more pressure to take growth, I have no doubt. We need to continue to be able to demonstrate that our planning scheme, in all its provisions, encourage the best, most efficient utilisation of the zones in a manner. That is appropriate and considers Noosa design, character, Noosa lifestyle. Frank Wilkie 01:32:17.253
And just further to that, what were some of the proposed solutions by the State planers that could take place at low density residential areas? Kim Rawlings 01:32:28.113
Yeah, there was a proposal. There's a range of things put on table, governments were given the opportunity to either do a local response, or there would be a state response. One of the State responses was that they would allow dual occupancy to occur in all low density, potentially up to three storeys, as a bit of a one size fits obviously-all approach um local governments not just us, but many objected to that approach and said let us demonstrate that we can actually cater to the dwelling targets, but within a manner that works for our and is responsive to local needs and expectations. So to date, we've been able to do that. Again, these amendments are important in that demonstration. Um yeah, you know, those are the sorts of things we'll need to face in the come 12 months, 24 Frank Wilkie 01:33:32.037
Just to clarify, you also mentioned that if these amendments are passed regarding the median list and high list of residential zones, residents that own a house in those zones, if it burns down when you place it, they can build like for or something larger under a superseded planning scheme, apply If it's up to 500 square metres, they to 1,000 square metres, can build a house, or a house and up to 1,000 square metres, under these. Use 5,000 metres, they can still have a cheap house. Nicola Wilson 01:34:07.367
That's correct. Thank you. And a question please. I believe or understand that in this round we are actually upzoning any lots to meeting density. Is that correct or Richard MacGillivray 01:34:24.427
There's a few. There's a couple of sites in Cooroy which are already some of them are already used as a duplex, so it's community housing. And there's a strip in Ben laxton drive, Sunshine Beach, which is going from low density to medium density, ones. Nicola Wilson 01:34:46.372
In the original 2020 plan, I believe there was a more significant uproar in the community against T-Pain. Would you be able to give me an idea of what was happening then? Richard MacGillivray 01:35:01.180
I couldn't get your number at the moment. In 2020 we had a whole suite of new zones so we had to do a translation of what the 2020 planning schemes zones were because with legislation we were given a suite of zones that we had to use. We could only choose from these and translate from what the zones were to what the new would be that at time there was sort of a default position that you know certain zones would translate to that default if anything was not of the default position obviously we did consultation with the owners at the time as well. But I couldn't give you a number. SPEAKER_01 01:35:58.908
But more significant. Richard MacGillivray 01:36:00.388
More significant, but still not overwhelming. Jessica Phillips 01:36:08.008
I will just give some context before I ask my question so I will get to my question but when I talk about the submissions there's themes and are around don't think anyone does understand the impact of growth in the State giving us those numbers but the one common thing that I tend to see and I would like maybe answered is how do we respond to the many property owners that feel that their land will be devalued in this SPEAKER_04_b 01:36:49.600
Thank you. You're done? Fine. Um. Kim Rawlings 01:37:01.460
Look, it's, you know, it's an issue that often put on the table when you make changes in a planning scheme. You know, in the past we've made changes to the planning scheme and the issue of property values has been a concern. As time has gone on, the concerns haven't played out, haven't impacted property values in the way that people might have thought they would. Feasibilities, you know, what's being proposed. Is feasible, they've been tested. So, you know, against contemporary market rates. What I would say is that, you know, that's the process both that we've experienced in the past and process that we've, you know, undertaken in terms of the changes that we're recommending in response to those sorts of concerns. There were concerns about, you know, feasibility and things like that and we did work to test those to make sure and, you know, there's been quite a bit of a shift from what was advertised, you know, to now what's allowable. Know, the other thing I would say is that there are existing use rights. People, you know, have There is also a process of superseded planning scheme so if any change is made to any planning scheme, anyone has the opportunity to apply under the previous scheme. But that's the route of explanation. Tom Wegener 01:38:50.667
I'll speak to the motion. I think that this is really the heart of all of the planning scheme amendments. This is the key issue and want to support amendment. And this is not something I would have voted for when I first became a Councillor five years ago. I would have thought, no, this is a heavy hand of government changing things, you know. And since being a Councillor, we've gone through this whole understanding of what planning is and how planning looks to the future. What do we want NUSA Noosa like in the distant future? And coming from, you know, I live in lots of different places in america where you have your mansions along the shore and then you go back a few blocks have where the people live and that's not the vision that I have for New Zealand, I don't think that's the Australian vision. Of course, that is the vision when you go to the east Coast of the united states. So, I see that this is taking control of vision for where Noosa is, what we want it to look like, the Noosa that we want for the future. And of course, I completely understand the people that oppose the amendment, and I'm probably going to lose some friends over it, because they're going to say, my gosh, what you've done. I've always wanted big place right on the river. But now, when they buy the land, they're not going to be able to do that. You'll tear the house down. They're going to be limited in the future, which is the vision for the Noosa that the majority want. Was really educated through the Short-term Accommodation Monitoring Report and the Housing Strategy, and listening to and watching the questions go out, having the community come back twice and say, "This is the vision of future, Noosa that we have." And that's very consistent with the amendment. Yeah, so that's-- this is actually the moment, you guys. This is it. We know what it is. We've been talking about it for a very long time. We need to stand up for this. And yes, some-- people will believe that they have people will it's not good for them in short-term pocket, but this is where we stand up for the Noosa that we envision and leaning on what the State wants us to do as well. I mean, my gosh, that's a whole other issue that we're dealing with, but I think that fundamentally we look at the Noosa that we want to live in. Nicola Wilson 01:41:33.150
I'm not aware of the dwelling targets in the SEQ plan, I don't believe it's individual residents and property owners' responsibility to facilitate the dwelling targets of the SEQ plan. We have people who bought houses in the median density zone at a time when a single dwelling was consistent in that zone. We've had people rezoned in 2020 into median density residential zones. At the time, a single house I don't believe it's fair to take away that right to increase or redevelop the size of their family home. I would I ask Councillors not to make loaded comments like Mac mentioned. If people want to develop their family home then I believe they should have the right to do that. And therefore I support this motion. Thank you. Jessica Phillips 01:42:28.463
I'll speak to the motion in support as well but I probably can't trump that because that was exactly my feeling but I'll talk about it from my heart I guess because I've lived here my whole life and I see pioneer families that have sacrificed so much to buy land and they've got this little quaint house on it and this will devalue. Their retirement and their kids and everything that I stand for in Noosa. So I support the amendment. Thank you. Frank Wilkie 01:42:59.789
Mr. I'll just make a note of the there is no evidence that this staff proposed amendment will devalue any property. Prices in Noosa have continued to increase despite negative comments after planning scheme changes. It will not stop property owners making an application on the superseded planning scheme to build a bigger house on the lot that they own. Them replacing like for on their property. If they own a property that is up to 500 square metres, size, they can still have a house in the medium and high density residential zones. If they have a lot up to 1000 square metres, duplex, which I believe is the centre of a very heartfelt letter submission. We have a submission that we all received. Is a responsible plan. It does not diminish what we're trying to achieve in the planning scheme. It recognises the submissions. I think it's a very good middle ground and responsible all the way forward. And I believe it will also prevent the State from leaning away on low density residential lots where people might have that house. A lot of single dwelling houses that Councillor Phillips talked about are currently in low density zones. Medium density residential zones. If we don't have these provisions and responsible changes come in, the medium and high density residential zones, then they may not be able to do what they would like to do on the low density residential so I can't support this in a conscious way. I do appreciate and respect the views that have been expressed because they're all my time now. Amelia Lorentson 01:44:51.760
Could I ask a question please? Councillor Wilkie mentioned you can build it like for My understanding that. Question. Can you clarify if there was to be a significant change in the size and scale of the previous dwelling, would that trigger an impact assessable development approval, an MCU? So it's not as. My question is it as simple as locking down a house and rebuilding? Frank Wilkie 01:45:23.093
Just to clarify I did say you can replace like the like but if you wanted to produce do something larger, it would be an application on the superseded planning scheme. That's what I said. SPEAKER_04_b 01:45:36.473
Sorry, can you just. Amelia Lorentson 01:45:38.133
You've got. My question is would an application under superseded planning scheme require a Material Change of Use application? Richard MacGillivray 01:45:48.073
Yes. So a request on the superseded is a request to apply under the current planning scheme. So if it complied with the current provisions, no Material Change of Use development application would be required if it was a superseded request. SPEAKER_01 01:46:06.074
If it complied with the scheme provisions, you'd still need to apply under the superseded planning scheme. Does that make sense? Nicola Wilson 01:46:16.914
Can I ask a question on that please too? Just to clarify that channel of opportunity is only for 12 months. Richard MacGillivray 01:46:26.773
It's That is correct. Frank Wilkie 01:46:37.093
It's a 12 month provision that applies for all subseded question to staff. Is it true that the vast majority of single drawings are in the latest zone and a small portion medium or high-density zone? Richard MacGillivray 01:46:50.947
Yeah, obviously the vast majority of land in Noosa Shire is in a zone, is in either the rural zone, the rural residential zone or the low-density housing residential zone. That accounts for probably 80 to 90 percent of the Shire. All of those zones allow for dwelling house as accepted development. There are hundreds of properties in the median density residential zone, not thousands but hundreds. There's 639 of them are less than square metres. So they can have duplexes? And only 165 are above 1,000 square metres and many of those are actually owned by the State. Frank Wilkie 01:47:52.125
So we're talking about a minimum of people then on property that's been affected. Before Councillor is there anyone else who wishes to speak to motion? Councillor Lorentson thanks a lot, Mr. Collins. Amelia Lorentson 01:48:12.980
Just to address a couple of things that have just been raised. Our vision for I've got a different vision. I don't believe what's been proposed is the vision for Noosa. I think we can work a little bit harder and find different housing or better housing solutions. My vision for Noosa is I look at Noosa Civic and think let's throw the high density over there. Let's leave our low residential, medium areas alone. Let's not. Sacrifice community values. Character. Let's not potentially devalue property prices. Let's respect and preserve our residents. Preserve. Let's do the job that we were let's paid to do as Councillors, which is preserve our residents' property rights, not erode them. Let's do what we're paid to do, which is to ensure processes, you soon. Social inclusion and that the community agree with the decisions that we make. I understand and I keep saying we're all part of the solution and Council is no one is disputing that. But I just think we need to understand what are the social economic impacts of our decisions. We need to unpack that and what is the cost to our lifestyle and have we had that discussion with our community and I think unless we're clear with our decision-making and clear that who we work for I just think you know we're rushing make to these decisions without proper consideration of the people that we as Councillors were paid to represent. Frank Wilkie 01:50:18.943
Thank you Councillor. I'll put the other members in favour. Councillor Wilson, Lawrence Phillips, Zoe gates, Councillor Finzel, Finzel, stocco, Stockwell, Wegener Wegener and Wilkie. These amendments lost. Do we have any other amendments today? Could we have a break? There's been a request for a adjournment, a call to break. All Councillors in favour? Yes. Thank you Councillor. Frank Wilkie 02:05:26.240
We've got amendments that Councillors would like to test today. Councillor Lorentson. Amelia Lorentson 02:05:32.759
Want to test one and I'm not sure whether it'll get any support but I want to test it. Can I put an amendment, deferred consideration is it a new one? Yes, it is. I threw it across and I was going to pull it out but I just, like I said, I don't, not sure if it'll go up but I do want a discussion about this at a minimum. Deferred the consideration of rezoning properties. From tourist accommodation high density residential until a thorough assessment of the same thing like going into um where is it going to like an item under c it's in reference to the rezoning is it under SPEAKER_01 02:06:30.475
Item c though like are you adding an item to c like the previous SPEAKER_04_b 02:06:43.186
Issue I will see issue three so she's not adding anything to item c no so it's so issue three there is no issue three that got lost no it's a new one not related not developed okay so it refers to recommendation SPEAKER_01_b 02:07:02.806
C so that item c cb would be amended to include or is to remove or to defer consideration Amelia Lorentson 02:07:25.700
Of rezoning properties from tourist accommodation high density residential until a thorough assessment of the economic impacts is conducted SPEAKER_04_b 02:07:43.377
Suggest we just add after rezoning properties as identified in item 3 of attachment 2. SPEAKER_01_b 02:08:01.595
We're sort of not really saying where it is. Hand and speak to this man, please? This is item C at the moment, with a number 1. Is this going to be a number 2 under item C? Currently, we've got item C saying that, plus. That. So is this to be an item- Yes. Okay. Right, that's how item 2 will be added under item C. SPEAKER_04_b 02:09:01.580
Okay. So, I'll just try and work out where it's going. So, Councillor Lorentson, if okay it's with you, if we could just say defer consideration of rezoning properties from tourist accommodation. Another zone. Yeah, because we inadvertently pick up other high density signs potentially. There, so you just want to defer any changes to the Tourism Accommodation Zone. Thank you very much. Until? Yeah. Amelia Lorentson 02:09:26.361
An assessment of the economic impacts is conducted. Oh, no, no. Can you just click the and? I think the second was in the second page. Frank Wilkie 02:10:17.438
Are we, is that an acceptable, is that clear in its intent? Yep. Okay. Alright, can we have a seconder for this please? Happy- thank you Councillor Finzel. Lawrence. Amelia Lorentson 02:10:36.354
I'm denied and I'm denied about this one, but we talk about, you know, what keeps us up at night. The implications of the decisions that we're making today and if it's deferred next week. That's what kept me up all night. I've had very little sleep. So every decision we make, Councillors term, medium and long term implications. This is, you know, every planning scheme change has those implications. What I'm concerned about is-- have we properly understood the impacts that, in particular, this rezoning change is going to have on resort managers, on local businesses? You know, what keeps me up at night? We make these changes. Have we, in essence, with the stroke of a pen, rendered management rights of resort owners worthless? Have we disrupted the livelihoods of our residents and operations? What are the unintended flow-on effects of these decisions? What does it mean to a business operator that owns, you know, boat operations or a restaurant owner or coffee owner? Have we fully understood economic impacts of these decisions? And I don't believe we have. We keep talking about, you know, economic and social impacts of the decisions that we make. We need to understand these. A lot of these properties that are being transferred or proposed should be transferred from tourist accommodation zoning to high density residential zonings. A lot of them are resorts. Are-- built, purpose to accommodate visitors. This is where we want our visitors to stay. So, again, what impact does this decision have? What are the consequences of this decision for our tourism industry, our economy, and our community, small business owners who are our residents. What I'm asking is that we properly understand the economic impacts of these decisions we economic impacts before proceed with-- any sort of zoning changes. What we're putting at risk is economic stability of our economy, and again, potentially undermining or inadvertently destroying small businesses. People who own management rights, all the guys all that hire out jet skis, boat operators, restaurant owners, I just think we need to just be really, really considered and know what we're signing off on. Frank Wilkie 02:13:47.916
Yes, Stockwell. Brian Stockwell 02:13:49.176
I have a question. It is my understanding that. The vast majority of all the properties proposed to go from Tourism Accommodation Zone back to a residential zone, were those properties that were zoned tourist accommodation only four years ago in the 2020 scheme, that all subject to that change at had pre priggs. Existing use rights, that there's been no development in that zone in those locations in the last four years, so changing it back to a residential zone will have absolutely no impact on the pre-existing use rights. I'm going to ask that question. Will it have absolutely no use? SPEAKER_09_b 02:14:29.913
Just in response to that, not all properties were previously in a residential zone that are proposed to go in a Tourism Accommodation Zone, so under the previous 2006 somewhere, so that's not entirely correct. Brian Stockwell 02:14:46.154
Sorry, just to clarify, I believe the motion is targeting those that were in a residential zone, went to the tourism accommodation zone in 2020 and are now proposed to go back to a residential zone. Rather than the other way around. SPEAKER_09_b 02:15:00.051
So the proposed amendments aren't purely changing it to a residential zone, some of the changes are actually going to a centre zone as well. Under previous scheme, some of them, you're correct, were in a residential zone that moved into a Tourism Accommodation Zone. Some were, yeah, and some are going back, but that's not the case in all sites. So yeah, so, but it doesn't impact existing use rights, existing approvals. They can continue. So it doesn't retrospectively say you can't undertake short-term accommodation or visitor accommodation at all. Jessica Phillips 02:15:40.180
This is about future development of those sites, should they redevelop in to clarify, Councillor Stockwell though, for the past four years, yeah my question is could the reason why they haven't redeveloped because we've just had a huge cost of living an increase in less trades, like would that be the reason why redevelopment hasn't occured in the last four years. SPEAKER_04_b 02:16:10.490
Look, of these sites, unlikely, then, you know, they're. These, many will continue as they are for decades and not redevelop. So it's not like we, I can't think of any that will probably have developed and redeveloped or are due for redevelopment in the last four years. So I think that's probably. Unlikely. This is about very much about the future. That if, and when these sites redevelop, that we are preferring residential outcomes, because we need to continue to provide housing for permanent residents. It is not at all retrospective, and they also have existing use rights. Amelia Lorentson 02:16:57.112
To clarify, system, so the current zoning already supports mixed use. Both short stay and permanent housing. Does that not achieve what we're seeking to achieve, which is housing diversity? So the question is, do we need to the rezone? Rezoning? To achieve housing diversity? SPEAKER_09_b 02:17:22.229
Under the Tourism Accommodation Zone, you're correct that multiple dwellings and short-term accommodation are both consistent uses. Kim Rawlings 02:17:30.749
I guess the intent is that these sites provide an opportunity to deliver permanent housing with. We've got a huge extent of land dedicated to short-term accommodation, we've got interchangeable use rights that occur from pre-existing approvals from anything built pretty much prior to 2006, so this is about identifying opportunities for there are opportunities for housing, and the short-term accommodation report and I guess the review of the Tourism Accommodation Zone clearly identified that we have a huge extent of land dedicated to tourist accommodation and our residential zones that also allow for interchangeable use SPEAKER_09_b 02:18:12.545
Rights so we have enough in terms going forward of short-term accommodation opportunities this is about housing security and ensuring that those sites develop for permanent housing and aren't interchangeable so that we lock them in for permanent residents in the future. These sites provide redevelopment opportunities on the whole. SPEAKER_04_b 02:18:34.105
You'll also recall you know strong kind of demand from the community that we're really clear about how our zones are used so that there's not all we can do it any both in that zone anyway you know we've been moving towards getting a lot clearer about residential zones being for residential uses, tourist and tourism you know so this advances that to become clearer about you know where short-term accommodation and tourist accommodation is encouraged. Facilitated. You know wanted and it should be able to develop freely you know there and where residential development should occur and that should be protected and managed for residential. You know we are our community have and continue to demand you know clarity and strengthening around both of those aspects. Frank Wilkie 02:19:30.600
Question, can you share a bit about how submissions have including those from the landowners and Tourism Accommodation Zone have actually prompted some of these proposed changes? SPEAKER_09_b 02:19:43.493
The proposed changes are specific to particular so if you like I could go site by So I guess an example is Halse Lodge to Halse Lane. Well that was just a realignment I'll so think about another one. Kim Rawlings 02:20:07.346
An example is 48 Noosa Drive, heads, which is the nomads backpackers site, which is 12 individual lots, which is currently in the Tourism Accommodation Zone. The current, just to give you an idea about, under the current requirements, they could develop each individual lot for a house, single under develop the site. They could also develop for, I guess, a resort, visitor accommodation, short-term over site as well. And multiple dwellings are consistent under the Tourism Accommodation Zone as well. So this site in particular, being a large key site of 12 lots, or one whole lot, its location right in the centre of Noosa Junction identified it and with redevelopment potential it's underdeveloped got an old building on it now was identified as for future housing high density to deliver all those housing outcomes we want to see in terms of small dwellings worker accommodation right on the doorstep of bus interchange all the services work the whole lot so we had submission on that one that both from the tenant as well as consultant we have Fiona SPEAKER_09_b 02:21:27.026
That highlighting the importance still of low-cost accommodation to Noosa and that the intent you know of the tenant was that hopefully that the owner would redevelop it for backpackers like as in re-establish the building and there were suggestions from them about why don't you look at a mix over the sites 12 it's a big site Kim Rawlings 02:21:52.000
And yeah so the importance of tourism was highlighted in the economy so in response to that given its 12 large sites we're proposing that it continue in a high density residential zone because under our it will stop houses being built on those individual lots and under utilising the site and provides the opportunity for bonus provisions for small dwellings there as well but in addition to that allow additional uses of low-cost accommodation in the form of backpackers and motel in response to that highlight the importance to the local economy so we've responded there by you know allowing a mix of uses and greater flexibility over the site Frank Wilkie 02:22:38.471
Which is what the landowner and the tenant want SPEAKER_09_b 02:22:42.111
Um so there was a mix of responses but what was being highlighted was that the tourism component was also important over this site and we've responded to that but also in the context of the bigger picture and outcomes that we want to see in terms of our housing outcomes and the size of the site 12 lots it could be developed under a master plan arrangement where we've suggested that we'll no more than 40 percent of the site should be low-cost accommodation for tourism and the balance we still want a housing outcome over that but leaving it up to the owner of the property or the applicant to come to us and demonstrate how that could be achieved over the site planning process. Frank Wilkie 02:23:29.607
You mentioned that all these changes were ratified in the sign off by the State. When the State is saying that they are okay with these members amendments to proceed what consideration do they leave to social and economic aspects. SPEAKER_04_b 02:23:48.904
So there's two state processes which we've moved through the first state process which is interest check and the State interest check against state planning policy policies and there's a number of those and also that it meets legislative requirements in terms of process and structure and drafting and there's a raft of state policies that members need to meet. Significant ones for this are around liveability, planning for growth, planning for housing, economic development. They're probably key ones around this package of amendments and the State, by getting us through a first day interest check, endorsed that these amendments align and meet the requirements of the State site planning policy. SPEAKER_05_b 02:24:48.612
Mr. Stockman? Brian Stockwell 02:24:50.092
I'll speak against the amendments. Are about adopting the change to achieve the housing outcomes and tourism outcomes that we have been planning for since well before 2022. Was a the housing news assessment. We also had the tourism accommodation STA room and the SCA review. The planning scheme sets the future desired vision. SPEAKER_05_b 02:25:25.729
The concept that changing the zone affects management rights and existing lawful use is italicised. Brian Stockwell 02:25:35.990
What the real economic impact of continuing to defer everything is we fail to address the crisis in housing which means provide businesses with a secure supply of workers. Just this week we had a meeting with one of the shire's largest employers to look at their sustainability initiatives. But repeatedly what we heard is their biggest challenge is retaining staff. And they talk about how their base level hospitality workers travel now get to work. And they also executives stay corrupt and up to only maybe six to eight weeks because they can't afford to rent. The challenge facing our economy is one about keeping the balance right between permanent residence and tourism. We heard in the report that the estimate is we have a current accommodation for 30,000 visitors as we have here now. So if we were to be full house in tourism, there'd be about a third visitors, two-thirds residents. And we know that at the moment, according to Tourism Noosa figures, is sustaining about a third of our gross regional product. Our economy is already supported by third of the comes from tourism. And the suggestion from staff was we have enough. And I think what we hear in the community is we have too much particularly to attend. When we look at the specific changes, and I forgot about some of them, but ones, I think the majority of them were in that translation process from the old zone to the new zone in 2020, we put quite a few hectares of land that previously was both a mix of residential and when we operations into the tourism accommodation zone. Lot of these changes are rectifying what was probably over zell's approach in 2020. And remember that amendment was based on conditions in 2018. The world has changed. We've had COVID, we've had a whole lot of growths in other forms of tourism. This set of amendments is about looking at the long-term form of the Noosaville and heads area in Sunshine Beach, and saying: to have residents who can walk to the river? Or should that all go to tourism uses? Do we that housing choice at the top end so that perhaps the supply at the lower end can become free up. Pretty happy because if all you're doing is creating opportunity for tourism accommodation combination at the top time end in the most desirable locations then that has a triple down effect on what's available to our residents. So some of these amendments are about saying this is a great place to live and long term we think these are locations where we should have residents. There will always be mix of residents and tourism but we're looking at where we're heading. Do it at the moment, and that's a classic case. It is an excellent site for that key worker accommodation. And it's big enough so it can support a substantial redevelopment for the current use of backpackers as well as perhaps other forms of accommodation if those backpackers want to stay for longer than three months and work in Hastings Street. That's what the amendments allow. The potential implications of this zoning change that aren't really based in fact is not a plausible argument in my perspective. The decision as councils we make today is where we want our residents in the future. Is the extent of tourism accommodation zone justified or is there a need to make it very clear and to zone it Frank Wilkie 02:29:57.386
Ok I'm sorry, I can't remember. Against the amendment. SPEAKER_01_b 02:29:59.866
Thank Frank Wilkie 02:30:07.726
Any other questions before we have time to just speak or ask the end? I'll speak. Against the amendment. This is a retrograde step. As we heard from the staff before it even gets to this stage it has to pass state interest checks. That takes into account social as well as economic development implications. To defer only adds to confusion and uncertainty. Industry and the community needs certainty. This process has already been retracted. Enough. I would be very disappointed if this was supported and we have to engage yet another consultant to do an expensive consultancy to tell us something that we probably already know and get back to this point where we are today. So for those reasons and more, I cannot support the amendment. Amelia Lorentson 02:30:56.593
And I respect conversation around the table. Like I said, I just wanted to tease this out. I'll be probably, like I said, what keeps me up at night, I keep asking, you know, what are we endorsing today and where will we be in four years time? Are we actually going to be delivering more housing to households? House our residents. Providing affordable housing or is the or are we simply going to be just increasing supply and diversity? Appreciate the conversation around I'll vote against this as well. Thank you. Frank Wilkie 02:31:38.480
The amendment to vote those in favour? Against? That's unanimous. Now move on. Any other amendments? Okay. Thank you. Jessica Phillips 02:31:57.535
I really want to bring that up. Our Council mapping, could we? Is that possible to do? Which side? Just with my amendment for 247 to 257. It'll be in the report. Okay. In attachment to, Kat? I'll read this while that's happening. Yeah, I had them all up last night. I'll just start. That item 2, the added item, that C, including an additional proposed change in response to public submissions to attach to as follows, A, 3.12, remove 247 to 257. Gympie Terrace, Noosaville from the proposed high density residential zone and the site remain in its current Tourism Accommodation Zone. And B, 3.13. All proposed amendments referencing the site be reverted back to the existing wording. It kind of flows on from the discussions. I don't- Can you put your hands up? Thank you. Councillor Stockwell. Yes, please. I had it up last night. In fact, I went through every single address that is. Let me just bring this up. With the resounding from tourist to high density zone, I went through each specific address that we have here on our Council mapping facility, which is a great tool, especially with the colours, so I really like that. And what it highlights. Highlighted. If we can get that mapping up, please, because that will reinforce my point. Overlay of the. Thank you. You could even go out even further. Thank you. Okay, perfect. So, Gympie Terrace, a stretch of businesses relying heavily on tourist accommodation. Again, I don't know how many times I've said lived here my whole life. So, to reinforce, this stretch of Gympie Terrace has always been tourist accommodation. For purposes of all the businesses and residents, because I frequent there a lot. If we all of a sudden shaded in one lot, I think it's this lot, to-density. High residential. I feel it is really inconsistent with the entire streetscape of gimp Terrace. I support any residential where it would have access from Edwards street, James That all makes sense to me, because it's residential. Can't understand why we would start changing accommodation along the river and to reaffirm that I am about residents first. But our residents own businesses and they need tourists. It's been a tourist town for 39 years. I don't want to see those businesses start failing because we don't have tourists to go and. Buy coffee to the address for all those things, which, yes, residents do, from a short walk from Elizabeth, Edward and every other street where our locals live. So, again, I just. It does not make sense that all of a sudden I'll have mapping up there and three lots will be red. For urban design, purposes, from every other aspect I can look at, it just doesn't make sense. I can't. I would like to see that returned to tourism because it. Brian Stockwell 02:37:23.841
Sense to me I have a question can staff explain what was proposed to the site? Kim Rawlings 02:37:31.501
Yes, so there's a proposal from, on Gympie Terrace, from James Street down to that has been highlighted which is the 247 that whole frontage as well as what's coming down this is the proposal so it's not an isolated site that's proposed for inclusion in resolution in the high density residential, it's a strip and a precinct that was identified particularly from James Street down to Edward street is all residential permanently occupied buildings and then from Edward street down to 247 Gympie Terrace is mixed-use allowed under the lab under sorry they're mixed-use buildings which have commercial ground floor some seconds story with a mix of uses which are both office local services as well as some restaurants and the like so the proposal is that section be included in the high density residential and continue to allow for mixed-use ground floor outcome and a broader range of business types but when it should redevelop and quite a few properties there have redevelopment potential it would be allowed to go to three stories with permanent residential dwellings above Jessica Phillips 02:39:04.082
And if that was to work that question be re-developed does this kick in the hundred square metre SPEAKER_01_b 02:39:14.182
That's what we're proposing would be re-developed today to be affordable residential units so I understand. Kim Rawlings 02:39:27.854
As proposed by these changes small dwelling size was being reinstated at a hundred square metres and it's an opt-in the high density residential if they want the bonus provisions. These particular sites of fronting and kipu Terrace do have a different gross floor area outcome that is permitted, which is higher, but it's not mandatory that they must be small dwellings. So the intent here was that this, you know, to reinforce what was already happening there, which is predominantly a permanent residence, recreate that residential neighbourhood, along with that being a local centre, services visitors as well, but should it redevelop, that those dwellings be for permanent residents and that permanent residents have the opportunity to also live in high amenity areas on the river as well. Brian Stockwell 02:40:23.252
Just clarifying something you said, that it would retain the mixed use with a broader suite of uses permissible. Is that suggesting, like I know in the tourism accommodation there's limited set of commercial, the way we've set up to actually increase the different businesses that could establish there for pre-development, is that what you're saying? Kim Rawlings 02:40:44.770
I'll have to take the detail, but that was the intent of all of these and same with the change of inclusion and district centre zone, that the range of commercial uses been broadened because under the Tourism Accommodation Zone, are limited and are meant to focus on tourism outcomes and tourism uses and supporting visitors as opposed to residents. Amelia Lorentson 02:41:10.371
Just out of curiosity when I've just googled 247 macy's secret restaurant is that listed as of some heritage significance? Is, yes it is local thank you. Frank Wilkie 02:41:30.880
And the Councillors wish to speak to the amendment before Councillor Phillips closes. Anyone wish to speak against the amendment? I'll I think the staff, Councillor Phillips rightly questioned what she expressed. She would like to understand the reasons for the changes. The staff have given the answers. I hope that's been helpful. I support the staff recommendation that these changes allow our residents also to live permanently by the river. I don't share Councillor Phillips' concerns. That the on businesses along the river will have any shortage of visitors to buy the coffees. I think residents love buying coffees as well. And I don't think these changes will adversely affect the operation of businesses thank Councillor for bringing her concerns to our attention Jessica Phillips 02:42:42.516
Ask a quick question before I close then. If, good point, thank you for maisie's being heritage, does that mean that ever can be yes, redeveloped it can be if it's high density? Kim Rawlings 02:42:57.561
It sits in at the front of an existing site that already is developed and so there is no development potential probably left on that site that was a the change of its inclusion in the high density was about you know guess from a land use planning perspective saying well this is the permanent dwellings because the majority of those dwellings are occupied by permanent tenants residents SPEAKER_09_b 02:43:20.732
So rather than it being a redevelopment opportunity on that particular site. Frank Wilkie 02:43:25.060
Just to clarify, this is an important point, you're saying this proposed change reflects existing use A lot of permanent residents do already live there. Jessica Phillips 02:43:34.622
I will close and it probably came off the amendment that Councillor Lorentson put in around the economic value of tourists. I can't. I'm just asking Councillors to hang on. We say these changes aren't going to impact our businesses and I fully support residents. I know we buy coffees, I do. It's not just about that. It's about making sure that for longevity we have a balance and for that reason I really feel that particular site can stay in tourist accommodation because it makes sense. Frank Wilkie 02:44:23.114
Thank you Councillor Phillips. We'll put the amendment to the vote. Closed. Those in favour? Councillor Phillips. Those against? Councillor Finzel, Stockwell, Wilson, Lorentson, woodner and Wilkie. The amendments lost. Does anyone have other amendments they'd like to. Councillor- Translucent. Wilson. Nicola Wilson 02:44:41.366
I do, yes. Relating to the islander resort, please. So the. Oh, sorry, I don't need a seconder. So I want to amend item 3.9 in attachment 2 to read lots 20 to 28 DTP 2.26. And lots 1 to 3 DTP 2743 fronting Gympie Terrace and now adding 5 DTP 2.26 fronting Thomas Street at 185 Gympie Terrace be removed from the proposed district centre zone and main street prison and remain in the tourist accommodation could we have a thank you to Councillor Phillips. This is an item where would have liked more time to get into the detail here. Example of where, although we have talked about this one, in the workshop and there was a change made already, so originally the recommendation was to put the lots fronting inverterris into the district centre zone as well and then it was just, they were put back into tourist accommodation and now just five lots on Thomas Street are proposed. So I guess the reason I'm writing this now is because I hadn't actually read the full submission on this matter before so we kind of talked about parts of it. I'll read a few parts out so I've got a few extracts from that submission. Commercial lots along Thomas tamar street have common property areas, shared infrastructure, toilets, pathways, bin bays and security gated access that cannot be redeveloped without all owners voting at an EGM. The commercial lots are already built to the three levels under the plan. There's no opportunity to add extra floor. The current approval on the site allows for short-term accommodation and permanent accommodation anyway, we suggest it's uneconomical to introduce a district centre that opens the scheme to small dwellings. Permanent residents and redevelopments or uses are best left to the current zoning to give owners this choice. Over the years many owners have chosen permanent letting over short stay and we will expect this will continue. And so if I had more time to dig into this one I guess I'd want to be thinking about the body corporate and the decisions that would need to be made and whether it's really worth singling out five lots from such a big resort that might just cause a lot of issues for the owners. The arms there um I don't really have any questions yet. This is one I'd really like to spend more time talking about but at this point I don't think it's a good thing necessarily any urgency to take those five lots out of the Tourism Accommodation Zone to Frank Wilkie 02:47:32.376
Assist all Councillors could you give us an explanation on what's driving the proposed changes there please? Kim Rawlings 02:47:42.063
Sure part of the review of the Tourism Accommodation Zone across the area and particularly in Thomas Street was the opportunity to create a true local main street or district centre main street for Noosaville Foreshore Infrastructure Management Plan which doesn't exist because it is a tourist accommodation strip with the extension of the district centre zone over what is now you call it maybe big box development but to get a real main street outcome in Thomas Street. So the intent there was that a district centre zone with a main street precinct be applied to that area. I guess the inclusion of these lots in Thomas Street I guess if there wasn't a big resort there they would be zoned district centre because that is the desired intent for that street. These particular blocks remaining, it was recognised in response to the submission that the lots fronting Gympie Terrace were probably outside the main idea of the main street, it was kind of a little bit further on. Really are more integrated with the resort. The lots fronting Thomas Street are fairly standalone and somewhat removed from the resort. They are ageing. It's not unusual for particular lots in a body corporate arrangement to be redeveloped and there's plenty of examples in Noosa where that's occurred. So it about if they were redeveloped redeveloping, that the outcome was achieving those main street outcomes we want to see and the district centre outcomes and that the residential component be for permanent dwellings in the future as part of that desired outcome for the district centre as being one of the key suppliers of our small dwelling supplies. Would it be possible to get this side up on the back in place. I might mention that this site was previously split zone like this under the previous plan. Under Noosa Plan 2006 it had a split zoning as well and 2020 it all came together under one, the Tourism Accommodation Zone. So it's not unprecedented. Those five are proposed to be retained. Mix, yeah, the shops. As you can see, the recommendation is that, in response to the commission, that, yes, we do remove these, and they can remain in the tourist accommodation centre, because the main focus is, this is the main street centre here. And we've also responded to taking up the active budget requirement for that development in response to the submission as well, so it's really just the edges of PP Terrace where that would be required. These are quite isolated from balance of the resort, and they do fund that mainstream environment, so the intent, or should they redevelop, the intent would be that we. Our desired outcome it be for a district centre, and the residential component be for turn left dwellings. Brian Stockwell 02:51:22.080
You for the question. Just more so than the last example, a district centre zone would provide the owners with a great flexibility in terms of the tenancy of those commercial premises, is that correct? SPEAKER_09_b 02:51:34.663
That's correct. Frank Wilkie 02:51:37.664
So it would be to the advantage of the owners? Kim Rawlings 02:51:40.732
There would be a great range of commercial uses, yes, but the short-term accommodation use would be inconsistent and obviously there is an ability to apply for existing use rights or whatever it may be, but our intent is that the district centres deliver permanent dwellings for residents and care workers. SPEAKER_05_b 02:52:02.689
So just a clarification on that. Brian Stockwell 02:52:06.489
The permanent residence would be triggered by redevelopment, however design would allow some something flexibility without redevelopment in the ground floor, while retaining the existing use rights in the top floor, is that correct? SPEAKER_09_b 02:52:21.867
That is correct. They would be committed to continue their current use of short-term accommodation, if that is what they're using it for. Amelia Lorentson 02:52:33.436
Just a quick question. You say that one of the key outcomes is to deliver housing for our key workers. Is that likely? Is, you know, units along Gympie Terrace actually going to be affordable? Kim Rawlings 02:52:48.245
So, key workers are us. Our Noosa's, emergency supply people, teachers, not just hospitality workers. So, yes, I do believe it's feasible. What this delivers is a range in dwelling sizes, so anything from studio up to a small three-bedroom dwelling, in a range of affordability price points that we're lacking at the moment. So, we're not saying they have to be affordable under our affordable rental premises definition, Stephanie. But certainly provides housing diversity So, yes, I agree. Frank Wilkie 02:53:26.260
Anybody speak at the moment before Councillor Wilson closes? Councillor Wilson? Nicola Wilson 02:53:33.160
Yes, I will close. Just I'm coming just back to the fact that the submission said that the lots can't be redeveloped without all owners fighting at an AGM. So, at this point, I'm not clear of how this would actually impact owners and the body of the program. Frank Wilkie 02:53:51.338
I'll put the amendment to those in favour. Councillor Wilson, those against. Councillor Finzel, Stockwell, Lorentson, Wegener, Phillips and Wilkie. Amendments lost. Do we have any more amendments? SPEAKER_01_b 02:54:09.344
Oh, yes. Frank Wilkie 02:54:13.024
Sorry, Councillor Stockwell, you too, if you please. Brian Stockwell 02:54:15.805
I amendment. It's further amendment to item C and it's to add whatever the next number is, please Cathy. Cathy, and I'll read it out and it's to read, with the exception that the proposed changes in response to public submissions identified as 2.5, wrong one, I've got ah, I've it this time, with the exception clause 9.1 and attachment 2, and reword this clause to provide further clarity as follows. Removes 100 metre and 20 metre building setbacks for boundaries of lots that are joined property owned properties are proposed for inclusion in the environment management and conservation zone as part of these amendments. Normal 10 metre setback will continue to apply for side and rear boundaries for buildings and structures in the rural zone. Can we have a seconder for that please? Thank you, Councillor Lorentson. This doesn't propose a change to what's recommended, it's proposing, just, it's clarifying exactly what was intended, the wording that I read in the report was, I came with a different interpretation, so we'll be in congress. Conversation this afternoon. With the staff we agreed that it would be better to really explicitly state what is proposed, as I said, it is exactly in line with the staff recommendation, just say it's more, not too do significantly more really Frank Wilkie 02:55:43.078
Um can we just get the staff on second that on that place SPEAKER_04_b 02:55:47.200
Yeah that's exactly right. There was potential room for interpretation in how it was currently written, so this just clarifies what the intent of the change is. Just for context, you will recall that we have had a number of properties that have Voluntary Conservation Agreements over them opt in to seek to want to provide further environmental protection to their properties so this has been an opt-in by a number landowners. Of owners so we are applying the environmental management conservation zone to those properties with VCAs. With there are buffers that come with required to adjoining properties. So inadvertently by applying the zone to these properties it has the potential to impact their adjacent properties which was never intended, not was raised through submissions to us and we were like yeah absolutely that was not in the intent. This is an opt-in for that landowner to have environmental protection on their property there is not intended to be off-site in a property location. So this is just clarifying that. Thank you. SPEAKER_01_b 02:57:01.878
Any further questions? Frank Wilkie 02:57:04.178
Any more questions from staff? Richard MacGillivray 02:57:12.959
Um. Staff? I'd probably like to be a bit more comfortable but that last sentence the normal 10 minute setback will continue to apply. Within the rural and the rural residential zone there are so many different setbacks which are relevant to the specific thing you're setting back whether it's a building or an animal use or whatever so that could be changed. I would feel a bit more comfortable if you just said the normal setback rather than nominate 10 minutes. Brian Stockwell 02:57:49.806
I'd be happy with that if the rest of the Council is just taking out the word 10 minutes or the number. There is a lot of variance in those signs. Frank Wilkie 02:57:57.578
Zones. Would then make setbacks. Are the councils happy with it? Are all that change to this technical amendment? Do you wish to close? Oh, sorry, any further comments? Councillor Stockwell? I'll put the amendment to the vote. All those in favour? That is unanimous. Any more amendments? Jessica Phillips 02:58:24.719
Do you mind, just with point seven, the mandatory small dwellings requirement in the medium and high density residential zones and dual occupancy as inconsistent in medium on lots 600s per metre or greater. I went over and this just reading really it and can I just get some clarity because it could be my interpretation but it feels like we're saying interpreted that the 75 per percent% needs to be in the small dwelling not the main dwelling and again much entire tired, but I just. SPEAKER_01_b 02:59:01.607
The Kim Rawlings 02:59:10.156
It's not clear enough for me okay yeah sure so the mandatory 75 of all residential gross floor areas is small dwellings was the proposal that was advertised so the right-hand column 6.1 6.2 6.3 is what we're proposing the change to be so we're no longer requiring mandatory small dwellings SPEAKER_09_b 02:59:35.163
In the high medium and high density residential zone we're going back to the current arrangement which is an opt-in to small dwelling provisions and opt-in for the bonus provision so nothing is mandatory as so we're removing the mandatory provision that we advertised so the left-hand column was what was advertised yeah the right-hand column is the proposed change SPEAKER_04_b 03:00:01.434
We've got a number of submissions around that issue so we're reverting back to the Amelia Lorentson 03:00:07.600
Thank you clarity okay um just a question that's come from residents and myself wise low-cost accommodation including short-term accommodation being included as part rezoning of the package will this re or new definition to include short-term accommodation will that have the effect of increasing supply of STAs and I'll quote the definition to now include additional consistent uses of low-cost accommodation short-term where backpackers or motels subject to impact assessment over maximum 40 of the site area and subject to a master plan Kim Rawlings 03:00:54.336
So the planning scheme of definitions under which are regulated by the State of short-term accommodation includes self-contained dwellings as well as backpackers and motels under that definition so what we're proposing is that we limit the range accommodation on that particular site to what we've termed low-cost accommodation backpackers and motels so not self-contained short-term accommodation dwellings it's just the way that the definition groups a range of visitor types of accommodation under the term short accommodation SPEAKER_09_b 03:01:36.551
And it's specific to that site. So the only increase in visitor accommodation types on that we're suggesting is for backpackers and motel Brian Stockwell 03:01:46.571
Just to clarify, I think the same or similar wording was used for the whole slide, so on the other side we're traditionally backpackers has been Frank Wilkie 03:01:57.567
All right we'll go back to the original motion unless there are any more minutes to which only I have spoken to anyone wish to speak Amelia Lorentson 03:02:17.492
I would like to need a procedural motion that we defer the decision making to next Thursday Frank Wilkie 03:02:24.557
Thank you. All right. We have had advice from the CEO that the meeting be adjourned. Amelia Lorentson 03:02:55.124
I'm happy that it achieves the same the outcome. I'm happy with absolutely. Just the way it is. So that Council note the report to advice strategy and sustainability manager to the Special Meeting dated 5th December, 2024 regarding proposed amendments number two church to and new use supply in plan 2020 and adjourn the meeting to a later time should be determined by the Chief Executive Officer to allow Councillors further opportunity to consider the details and implications of the report. I don't think I need to really go on about it. I think we are all exhausted and sleep deprived and I think again considering the significance and the of the decisions that we're going to be making today, I think it's in our community's best interest that we're alert and fully informed. So think this is just common sense. Frank Wilkie 03:03:49.870
I any think our Council is wish supposed to speak to the motion to adjourn? Councillor Wegener? Tom Wegener 03:03:58.915
I feel as though the questions were answered. We're here. Gone we've really through what needed to be done, and we are Councillors. We need to make decisions. This is what we are here to do, and I think we should make the decision right here and now and not put off. It opens up a can of worms, but more importantly, we have gone through the process, and I think we've come to a place it's where time it's to make decisions. We all have. There are questions to answer. We've been here in the morning. And if we have more questions, time. Jessica Phillips 03:04:37.599
I'll speak on it. I down, because I am tired. So, as someone who's dedicated my career to evidence-based decision-making during my time in the police service, I firmly believe taking necessary time to fully understand all the facts before I can act. I've never disarrested someone without solid evidence and I cannot in good conscious vote today which is why I want to support just a few days to digest the amount of report and submissions that I would like to go through more. I did a bit of reflecting on the 2020 plan when I was thinking about this and I had a toddler and two kids under four no idea the 2020 plan came out and I've lived here my whole life and I think I want to speak on behalf of just so many busy people and I'm one of them I'm juggling the job making really good decisions hopefully for community's best interest and I'm asking personally for just some time I'm exhausted as a Councillor I'm not a mother of two my phone doesn't stop it hasn't stopped in the last week around Kin Kin Corrie so many foreshore plan which is out of consultation my phone and emails haven't stopped our residents are balancing the same demands and probably more leading into Christmas just need more time I can make decisions I've made life-threatening decisions on the spot so a decision it is not about that it's that want to with this make a really informed not tired decision on we are potentially changing the future of what Noosa looks like. Karen Finzel 03:06:45.532
This forward Councillor Lorentson. Given what's been spoken around the table, I think it is just a pause button. I think that just shows respect back to the Councillors, especially the new Councillors that have, you know, want to do their job with excellence. We support that. I'll support the motion. I think it's important. And think also given the amount of emails and uncertainty that community has not fully understand the process, we have the, you know, the benefit of being in here. We fully understand that. I think also it gives them time to go back today and look at this fill and then hopefully some of their concerns have been eliminated when they've heard answers to the questions. I'm happy to support it. Noting also that we do want to get is very imperative we fully that we miss this opportunity to get this back to state in a timely manner given the years and the amount of time and work. It is critical that hopefully the CEO gives the opportunity but comes back within a reasonable timeframe to make sure that this decision doesn't impact those critical timelines. Thank you. Frank Wilkie 03:08:03.536
How do you get castle filson? Nicola Wilson 03:08:05.520
I'll speak to the motion as well. We've talked a lot about staff wellbeing lately and looking at the faces of these very tired people around the room you can see that this team has been through a lot in this process. And now also acknowledging that the wellbeing of Councillors is also important and making sure we make the right decisions. I don't think this gave us the best opportunity to make good decisions today and so I would also like little bit more time. Brian Stockwell 03:08:36.657
Thank you for attending the meeting I yeah, when I came to was with Councillor Councillor. Wegener. Certainly for myself, I haven't had that lot of long nights, but as I said, I'll probably deal with these sort of matters in a different way to other Councillors who might like to get a very, very detailed appreciation. It wasn't said in the debate back that lawyer. I ever heard this statement is, you know, if we want Council role to be available to diversity of people, we have to take account to their lives, not like our mums. And I think that's probably my decision is that we don't want to be saying just because it's okay for me that I own it so I don't have to get my head around it. Does that make a difference? So I will support the amendment. Karen Finzel 03:09:32.027
Oh, he's a german. SPEAKER_05_b 03:09:35.887
Sorry about in full recognition that there's going to be lobbying happening and if they're lobbying try and influence certain Council designs. I think all the decisions are resolved. Brian Stockwell 03:09:50.414
I think the key issues for this amendment have been resolved. There may be one or two areas of lots that some Councillors may want to just get their mind around but substantive decisions have been made. And I want to make it really clear that adjourning it isn't for the community consultation. We were elected to make this decision, it's one of the most important decisions you make in a term of Council. And to be fair and unbiased in our approach to community engagement, having certain more connected influence our decision post receiving advice on the sum of all submissions does threaten the process. So be aware, we're always up to being lobbied, but be aware it's process of community consultation happened months ago. Frank Wilkie 03:10:53.063
The tribe has spoken. I do really appreciate hearing from the Councillors the about the way this is. Process has impacted them. I think anyone watching today will get an appreciation that it may look easy, but it's not an easy job. And this is the job. I would also like to compliment staff because if you think we're under pressure here today, or have been during the workshops to digest and absorb all this information, I know you do have regard for the staff who've lived and read this for three years now. So I just want to acknowledge that. Councillor Stockwell makes a good point. The consultation process was extensive. The submissions have been addressed and reflected in the proposed amendments. We've tested amendments to those amendments today that reflected some individuals concerns and they've been tested and we've dealt with them. So I will support fellow Councillors in this procedural motion. SPEAKER_08_b 03:12:09.137
But I just want to compliment you on the way you've worked through these issues today. This is the process. Work of the local government. Is difficult and it does have happen. Implications. I'd like to commend the Councillors for wanting to take the time they need to get it right. We also have regard to the advice, the professional advice Frank Wilkie 03:12:31.298
Written and spoken that we've received from the staff. It has been excellent from second to none. You're that's why I have no problems with ratifying the plan scheme amendments today. But I can see where this is heading. SPEAKER_08_b 03:12:48.377
I'm going to support the Councillors for this adjournment. Thank you very much. Amelia Lorentson 03:12:54.836
I will close. I want to recognise the complexity and the importance of the matter before us. Decisions we make today, like I said, is going to have a profound impact on Noosa, its character, what it looks like, its liveability, what are these costs to our lifestyles. It's also going to have an impact on the trust the community places in us as they're elected. We're just talking about whether we adjourn the meeting or not. I am. I'm talking about why we should be adjourning. I need the time to ask these sorts of questions between now and when the adjournment happens. I want to ask have we truly listened to the community, have we really understood the impacts of these decisions in front of us? Are we getting ourselves, are we truly going to ever achieve what we're seeking to achieve or are we just chasing an ideal? Today and why the adjournment's is we're discussing process. We've had three days to read and analyse and digest the information, the submissions for the first time, 136 pages of it. And as Councillor Phillips mentioned, whilst balancing other responsibilities. Monday I think I had a 10 hour day. We need to make fully informed and thoughtful decisions and have sleep. This is not about avoiding difficult decisions. We understand our role as Councillors. This is about respect. For our community to ensure that they know that we have had time and we have the clarity to make the right choices for them. Stakes are high and our community needs or deserves nothing but the best of us and that means we need to be alert. SPEAKER_08_b 03:15:05.386
The procedural motioners in favour. That's Councillor Finzel, Stockwell, Wilson, Lorentson, Phillips and Wilkie. Those against? Councillor Wegener. The procedural motion is carried. The meeting is adjourned. 11:45. Thank you everyone today. Related Noosa Council Meetings
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