General Committee, 14 July 2025
Date: Monday, 14 July 2025 at 12:30PM
Location: Noosa Shire Council Chambers, 9 Pelican Street, Tewantin, QLD 4565, Australia
Organiser: Noosa Shire Council
Duration: 06:25:54
Synopsis: Noosa Junction roundtable approved, BID defeated, Risks/resourcing flagged, Finance surplus .3m, Operational Plan adopted, LGAQ Plastics motion reinstated, Contract deferred, Show holiday sought.
Meeting Attendees
Committee Members
Brian Stockwell Karen Finzel Amelia Lorentson Jessica Phillips Tom Wegener Frank Wilkie Nicola Wilson Executive Officers
Chief Executive Officer Larry Sengstock Director Community Services Kerri Contini Acting Director Corporate Services Margaret Gatt Director Development & Regulation Richard MacGillivray Director Infrastructure Services Shaun Walsh Director Strategy & Environment Km Rawlings Meeting Transcript
Brian Stockwell 00:00.220
Normally to our Acknowledgement of Country we acknowledge elders past, present and emerging and last week's theme was about the emerging leaders within our indigenous community and it was about next generation strength, vision and legacy and it celebrated the achievements of the past with a bright future ahead empowered by strengths of young leaders, division in our communities and the legacy of our ancestors and I thought it would be interesting because over the last week we've had Floating Land and one of the artists was Tisha Davis, a passionate Kabi Kabi traditional owner, dancer, artist and storyteller who lends her works rich cultural heritage with contemporary approaches to art and that was the installations down by the river there. That reflected the traditional middens that occurred in that location and then over the school holidays we've had Zeke Davis, a member of the Gabi dance troupe who ran a dream time creative fun and storytelling workshop as part of the Council's school holiday program and ongoing we have worked with the young Kabi Kabi land and sea rangers that program gets the young Kabi Kabi people back on country in Noosa and it helps us with our ecosystem restoration and no doubt they are controlled and prescribed burning activities and I think today's acknowledgement could end in the same way that NAIDOC did and it says together we walk forward honouring where we've come from and looking boldly to the future. So, welcome. Confirmation of myths. Attendance and apologies, we have GetTranscribed.com yes, Phillips are attending online. I move on to confirmation. Of minutes and do I have a mover for the General Committee Meeting minutes dated 16th June 2025. Councillor Lorentson and the seconder, Councillor Wilson. I'm presuming there's no conversation about that. So, all in favour? Yes. That's carried unanimously. We have no presentations, no deputations so we move on to items referred from committees and we had one from the Planning & Environment Committee on the Noosa Junction Precinct Management Models Assessment and we have tara and Anita here and one give us an executive summary. Sara Wilson 02:21.479
Sure so at the Ordinary Meeting held on the 17th of October 2024 Council endorsed a notice of motion requesting an investigation into precinct management framework suitable for Noosa Junction this report is in responses in to the notice of motion the report has been prepared to compare strategies for addressing land use conflicts between entertainment venues and nearby residents the scope of the report includes a review of current mitigation processes a brief exploration of best practice precinct management models including safe night precincts Special Entertainment Precincts and business improved improvement districts and an assessment of the models relevance and applicability to the Noosa Junction context the report focuses on design to manage the interface between hospitality venues and residential areas while also considering broader integrated precinct management approaches involving the full range of land uses and business activities within the junction and an evaluation of each option is in attachment one of the report. Concludes with a recommendation to further explore a framework based on the Business Improvement District model subject to initial stakeholder consultation and support. Any framework would be adapted to the local context. Of the junction and specific needs of the stakeholders. The investigation would also revisit the current regulatory framework including engaging with the existing liquor accord. The recommendation in that Council engage with relevant Noosa Junction stakeholders to gauge support or otherwise for the potential establishment of a precinct management framework based on the Business Improvement District model within the Noosa Junction Hospitality Precinct. Subject to stakeholder support investigate the feasibility governance and funding models for the precinct management framework and then finally report back to Council on the outcomes of those investigations. Brian Stockwell 04:11.583
Thank you. Do we have questions of staff? Councillor Councillor Finzel. Amelia Lorentson 04:15.742
I might start. We had some good conversation at the Planning & Environment Committee so I probably want to just raise some of the questions that were raised during that committee meeting and the first relates to about micromanagement and whether the recommendation in front of us over extends staff resourcing. Does it? Anita Lakeland 04:41.462
So this is something that has come outside the scope of our current work program, so it has the potential to obviously take a staff member away from our current programmed works, which are outlined in the Corporate Plan and where our priorities are there. So yes, it does have that in cost on our resources staffing. Amelia Lorentson 05:02.351
Speaking to Director Kim Rawlings, she spoke to us after the meeting on Monday and explained that staff are currently engaging with the Noosa Junction Association, with residents, with almost very regularly. Question. My question is how often are staff engaging with the Noosa Junction Association and residents and developers and businesses? Anita Lakeland 05:32.020
In terms of the Noosa Junction Association, predominantly our economic development team liaise with them on various matters and meet with them on the round table, business round table and other forums. We couldn't give you an actual frequency of that. Might be a question I need to take on notice and speak to ECDEF about. To in terms of developers, that would be on an as-needs basis through the pre-lodgement process. We engage from a strategic planning sense with development assessment team when required. Thank you very much. All the key ones. Frank Wilkie 06:14.639
You mentioned that if this was to be approved it would have an impulse on staff time and resourcing. Would that have impact? An impulse or an impact on our commitment to have placemaking in other parts of the Shire like we said last year we considered Tewantin or Kin Kin for the next placemaking project? Does that would happen that if we if were doing that? Anita Lakeland 06:37.663
Potentially it would take away resources, our staff and resources involved in the place area, the placemaking area and we'd need to refocus and look at Noosa Junction as the priority if this was looked at. Frank Wilkie 06:54.304
Yeah, and if we were to not approve this model, would the consultation between and the collaboration between Council staff and the Noosa Junction Association still continue? Yes. Thank you. Karen Finzel 07:11.268
Thank you through the Chair. I've got a question to the CEO in terms of, you know, moving the regulation out of, oh god, who's the bopper to no, do that? Oh, do you know? The liquor licensing and moving that to local government and putting that onus back on Council. Anita Lakeland 07:31.232
Through our local laws, you. Karen Finzel 07:34.417
Know, don't sit around that in terms of capability and being able to deliver that. Larry Sengstock 07:39.670
So my understanding is that's not what we're recommending here, Councillor, is. Karen Finzel 07:45.045
We're looking at the business. Larry Sengstock 07:47.629
Improvement. Sorry, it's a bid. Oh, it's for the bid. So that would only be if we went to the entertainment precinct model, where we would then override or we would take. OLGR would lose their power, we'd take over that power to manage the whole precinct. In terms of noise, time, activity, everything else. So, that's what we're proposing, of the numbers of options that we've looked at, we're proposing the bid model. Karen Finzel 08:21.440
There's a guarantee that we wouldn't be looking at moving into space at all any way further down the track? Larry Sengstock 08:27.440
Well, no, and that's the main reason why we've gone away from that, or one of the main reasons, but certainly that's not something we could accommodate easily. So we're not, I'm not proposing that and we're not, none of us are proposing that. Karen Finzel 08:40.096
Well, just making sure the door is actually closed on that risk. That's fine. I'm happy to confirm that with you, Councillor. Jessica Phillips 08:45.403
Thank you. Question, please. Yes, Councillor Phillips. Thank you. Just in relation to the recommendation part B, where it says engage with relevant Noosa Junction stakeholders, could I maybe get a list of who those relevant stakeholders are? Is it OLGR that would be one of those? Is QPS local? Police? QAS anyone that is responsible to some of the concerns that have been raised? Are they part of the proposal through this recommendation as a stakeholder? Anita Lakeland 09:26.134
Yes. Amelia Lorentson 09:30.524
Angel. And can I also ask the question that Gemma asked at the Planning & Environment Committee? Residents are also key stakeholders. Is that correct? Yes. Thank you. Can I? Might throw some questions that we might ask at the Planning & Environment Committee Meeting because just to provide some clarity. About what's actually being proposed. Can I ask, can you give a summation of this sort of framework? What a Business Improvement District looks like? And why is it being recommended by staff as a proactive step forward? Sara Wilson 10:14.678
Yes, I think it's important to note that we're not necessarily recommending that we pursue a Business Improvement District, but that we use that as the framework to make it local in context for Noosa Junction, given the issues that we've had with the entertainment venues residents. And so it would be that sort of framework overall and then we'd obviously model to what we need locally. I might just add as well that the recommendation is to investigate the suitability of that model following consultation with the stakeholders and whether there was support for us going forward. So the recommendation is to investigate it, not to actually do it. So essentially the steps for the initial setup would be having that consultation with the stakeholders and then once we've got any sort of agreement to look at moving ahead with would determine the boundaries of the area so that at the moment we've got the special levy area that the Noosa Junction is already in, we've also got the entertainment precinct and they're different areas so we would look at if we chose one over the other or maybe measured a mesh of the two we would explore how that levy would actually be funded whether it's through the existing mechanisms that we've already got in place with the existing levy and then a steering committee would be formed so Council would sit on that but there at the end of the day we would sort of step away from it and we wouldn't necessarily be running the program once it's established we would be looking at helping with the initial consultation and set up and we would sit on the board but not necessarily run it. Amelia Lorentson 11:48.872
Residents be able to sit around this table as well, tara? Sara Wilson 11:52.956
So that would be part of the investigation in terms of what that makeup would look like and who would be involved that's part of the initial consultation we would definitely be looking at engaging with the residents. Amelia Lorentson 12:02.665
So would a business plan or a strategy if this precinct management framework goes ahead is the plan that there's some type of business plan created yes and then the people around the table they sit around and say what are the issues: noise, safety, social behaviour, lighting, we need more police etc. If similar to the Hastings Street Association and can you talk me through how the Hastings Street precinct, how they manage their precinct because what we're talking about is quite similar. Yeah so I'm not familiar with how the Hastings Street. Sara Wilson 12:39.990
Precinct works I'm not sure if you've got any background on that but we can yeah yeah we'll have to come back to you on that to see what the differences or similarities are but yes essentially you basically come up with what the existing infrastructure and services are that has already been provided either by the junction or by Council and then you pretty much set out the goals from there in terms of what additional services or functions that can be carried out through that framework and then you would draft the business plan, the budget, the governance structure through that process. Amelia Lorentson 13:11.746
Fantastic, so if lighting is an issue they can sit around the table and pay for extra lighting or pay for extra security if there's any social behaviour or maybe propose noise sound like vegetation buffers or sound monitoring systems. Is that, am I in the right track? Sara Wilson 13:30.765
Yes, so basically they would be identifying where those gaps are and issues are and then that would be implemented through the business plan and through the funding. Amelia Lorentson 13:40.755
So does the Business Improvement District framework or any framework that we may be proposing. Do any of those override planning laws? Do any of them override environmental laws or regulations? Sara Wilson 13:58.758
No, so they would continue to be regulated through the existing through Noosa Plan, through the office of liquor and gaming. That would still remain in place as the overarching legislative framework. This would just be additional funding and service provisions in terms of what Council is currently providing, where those issues have been identified. You would look at sort of filling the gaps. Amelia Lorentson 14:21.422
So this recommendations come from staff. Can I ask why Council thinks this is a proactive step forward in my mis-recommendation? Brian Stockwell 14:32.041
No, that's not a question for staff. It was a motion that staff responded to. It's not about Council, why Council sees it in the way you suggest it. Amelia Lorentson 14:45.552
Can I ask the question differently and maybe can I ask the question through the CEO? The recommendation before us has been put forward to staff. Did staff, can staff have come back and just not support any investigation? Larry Sengstock 15:03.763
I think what staff have done is looked at all the options, proposed or possible options and put them back to Council to say here's a response to your notice of motion. If you want to go down this path then this is an implication on our staff, on our resource, our potential cost and time. And if you want to go down that path then we'll follow that all follow of that um that guideline or that direction thank you. Frank Wilkie 15:28.291
Question to the Chair. Can improvements for Noosa Junction that come through collaboration between the Council and the Noosa Junction Association happen through, continue to occur through current relations. Sara Wilson 15:43.032
I believe so, yes. Frank Wilkie 15:44.397
And would those current arrangements not involve the diversion of a staff member dedicated to placemaking and so placemaking promised continue in other parts of the shop. Anita Lakeland 15:57.994
It would be less resource-intensive. Thank you. Does Council have any expertise in the bid or in Noosa Junction in general? Yes, well, there is a history at Noosa Junction. There was a, I guess I'm not sure what he was called, like a place coordinator who kind of established, you know, a hot precinct approach to address a number of issues some years ago. I had personal experience in it in previous positions. The Pomona Place Plan is a form of a precinct plan. Local area planning, even in the Planning Scheme, are area type plans. So yes, there is team experience in doing this. Karen Finzel 16:57.641
Thank you Mr Chair. Just a question around if listed as a risk in the report includes absence of dedicated BID legislation in Queensland. You don't list what those risks are. You do go on to say how LGA does enable Council to establish the levies. Are you able to supply want what you think those risks are? Perceived I the or seed or they're the actual or. Sara Wilson 17:22.745
Yeah so I think in terms of that comment it's the Safe Night Precinct and the Special Entertainment Precinct both have very specific legislative requirements whereas the BID doesn't. So we would essentially would be working outside of any kind of formalised legislative requirement but there is existing Local Government Act requirements in place in terms of collecting and controlling a levy and things like that so there's not a specific process that is set out but there are areas that exist in those legislation that does allow for this type of process to happen. Karen Finzel 17:56.843
Yeah, the letter. So, for the Chair, there's a follow-on question then. So the people sitting on the board around this framework, they'll make decisions about what they want then obviously around the table which is all well and good because we want to see, you know, collaboration and outcomes where it's a shared benefits to people and everyone has a say. Do they only then make recommendations on it or do they, what they bring to us is, like, has to be followed? Sara Wilson 18:29.109
So again that would all sort of be nutted out through the investigation process. The implementation but essentially it would be through the business plan and potentially Council could be signing off on that business plan but again that would be determined through the investigation of how this model would actually work but they would sit separately junction currently has a very similar process in place where they bring their business plan to Council every year we sign off on it we collect the levy and then we give it back to them to disperse it in accordance with the business plan so it would probably be quite similar to that. Karen Finzel 19:01.262
So just a quick. A question that how had-- do you think these changes moving forward will actually value add to what we currently have. Anita Lakeland 19:09.082
Again the recommendation in the report is actually to investigate it and nut it out and I guess through that process we would determine whether there was any benefit to doing it and whether the stakeholders thought there was any benefit and support for the process as well so it would be through that investigation that we would explore that you. Brian Stockwell 19:34.428
Question? Councillor Phillips was first before and then Councillor. Jessica Phillips 19:39.054
Thank you. Just in relation to the additional or not additional but the resource that will be required to see this through I guess what I want to know is like if the – to get clarity – is the resource or allocation time to see this through going to take us to the point where the framework is sort of set up or I guess what I'm – my question is and quickly I'm at the national disaster emergency management conference and we talk about lead agency through the whole process and when I think of lead agency I think okay so what's our role as Council in this and are we potentially in this and I will get to the question to clarify is this sort of taking the point where we're going to look at being the lead agency but then we're going to step back from that role and my concern is like if that resource we're going to allocate at the end when there's a recommendation to whether it continues or what will that mean that we're going to have to potentially look for staff to continue sitting that through hopefully that makes sense. Anita Lakeland 20:58.505
Yes they'll need obviously to be an initial staff member dedicated to doing the research and doing the consultation and engagement and coming up with whether we go forward or not and what that model might look like but yes there'll be a need that once Council signed off on it if that was where it was heading the staff member to continue in that capacity to actually implement it and set it up as well so there'll be a yes there'll be an ongoing role there until really you know I guess ultimately a bearding is that Council would step away and they would be you know functioning on their own but I guess it would depend on what model and how that works and what the framework looks like and what resources are required but it would have a you know a resource in place. Brian Stockwell 21:50.822
Sorry Councillor Wilkie was next. I was going to move a motion. Karen Finzel 21:56.177
So just a question then of equity across the Shire if this um if this. Brian Stockwell 22:03.161
If on. Karen Finzel 22:05.295
Goes ahead um how do we provide that equity throughout the Shire for the other like business precincts I mean although small we do have other precincts you know from. Amelia Lorentson 22:15.886
The border can I ask through the Chair is this relevant to the item that we have front of us. Brian Stockwell 22:22.425
I think it is it's about allocating resources to a particular yeah business centre and the question is point. Amelia Lorentson 22:28.792
Of order there is no allocation of resourcing where the recommendation is to engage with these stakeholders to engage support and subject to then investigate the feasibility governance and funding models the recommendation as I've understood is simply an invitation so. Brian Stockwell 22:47.368
The motion is one that staff have suggested will require extra staff time the question is about whether that will affect others equitable access to that staff time across the Shire. I don't believe there's any point of order. You can continue with the question. Amelia Lorentson 23:03.104
Can I dissent, move a motion to dissent from that and request clarification through the CEO? Brian Stockwell 23:09.212
You can move a motion to dissent, yes. Again. No, but you have to get a seconder. There's been no seconder. Jessica Phillips 23:22.509
Sorry, I'll give you a second. I was trying to get off mute. Sorry. Thank you. Amelia Lorentson 23:28.257
The recommendation before us, as I've understood, is simply an invitation to meet with key stakeholders, including residents, to ask them, are they interested in exploring a precinct management framework? There is no commitment to governance, modelling, feasibility, funding. That's not the motion in front of us. Brian Stockwell 23:54.878
In a motion to send, I believe it's only the mover and myself to address it. I'll just repeat, staff have advised in this debate that this does have resource implications as my view is that the question is a legitimate question relating to the matter at hand because the question was whether this may have an equity effect on other business centres. That's why I stand by that ruling. I put the motion. Those in favour of the motion? To just send. Dissent from the chairman's ruling. Councillor Lorentson. Those against? That's Councillor Wegener, Finzel, Wilkie, Wilson, Stockwell and Councillor Phillips. Phillips. Jessica Phillips 24:40.296
I was with I've got I'll keep off Mike sorry There's a delay in the mic. Sorry. Larry Sengstock 24:49.118
She's with. Brian Stockwell 24:50.540
She hasn't said it though. So can you just say voting in favour of the motion or against the motion? Voting in favour of the okay. Motion's lost. Okay. So Councillor Finzel, would you like to repeat your question? Karen Finzel 25:08.388
The question basically relating to resource capacity and in the interest of fair and equitable governance. Just wondering how this will then have an effect on the wider Shire because we are here to represent hull Shire, taking into note that what sits before us is about feasibility to see and report back the outcomes to Council. I'm interested in seeing if we broaden that out. What does that look like in terms of giving voice? Larry Sengstock 25:42.343
I'm more than happy to answer that. This has come, from a, if you remember, from a notice of motion based on an issue that's raised itself over a number of years in the junction. So what we've asked the staff to do to address that notice of motion is really just to explore what the options are for the junction. Yes, it's going to take some time for because it engage requires people's time to go and talk to the various stakeholders to get to a point of whether they're prepared to support it or not. Then we investigate the feasibility, understand the governance and bring that model back to Council. If we really want to go down that path. So that's really where it's at. Addressing a current issue. If there was a current issue in other parts of the district, of the Shire, then certainly that could be raised as well. But this is specifically or specific to the of raising of Noosa Junction issue of noise that we've held with that we or was identified by locals and GR. And others pre-Christmas so we're really just addressing that and just looking at what the options are and we'll bring that back to Council so that's all that's happened at this point in time not all but there's a lot of work that's gone into it but identifying the different options explore our recommendation is to explore the in more detail the Business Improvement District option and bring that back to Council for further direction for. Frank Wilkie 27:14.349
Equity. Karen Finzel 27:18.989
Across the Shire is the process if I want to give voice to another precinct that would like to do that am I raising a notice of motion to bring before this Council if. Larry Sengstock 27:33.665
There's if a because becomes an issue absolutely that's your entitlement to do that this is really just a response to an issue that says raises head and has been brought to our attention through notice of motion and been asked the officers to do some further investigation and that's what they're doing thank you. Frank Wilkie 27:53.100
Thank you. Mr Chair I'd like to move a motion which is different to this one so it would involve keeping a but changing b to read continue to engage it. Will come up at the moment okay continue to engage with relevant Noosa Junction stakeholders Chair I'd like to move. You want more Cathy yeah keep going yes just to manage issues in. So straight after residence to manage yeah issues in comma and improve comma the precinct and get rid of everything that follows that in b and C and D as well get rid of C and D rid of the rest of B, C and D. Brian Stockwell 29:12.900
Just wait for it to come up to make sure everyone can see it you want more cats? The precinct and get. Thank can you move the we can't build the section here so you can see that oh sorry. Is everyone happy? Do they understand that? I have a question before okay and I have a question because it's not seconded. Jessica Phillips 30:09.685
Yes? Just before it moves would Mayor Wilkie be prepared to include OLGR and QPS in the stakeholders so we have it specifically there that they are two that sometimes um in the past have been late in engagement and maybe they um should be part of the process entirely when there's things going on and when there's not. Frank Wilkie 30:39.182
I'm happy for that inclusion my understanding is that they are consulted um so I'm to include that continue to engage with relevant seduction stakeholders you know, you including know including residents OLGR it's changed and QPS to manage issues in an improved precinct very happy with that Councillor Phillips okay thank you can we have a second A Councillor Wilson. Brian Stockwell 31:06.984
Councillor Wilson leads you. Councillor Phillips. Okay. Councillor Wilkie, here before thank you. Frank Wilkie 31:11.731
On as we've heard John there's a junction precinct is funded by a levy paid by the businesses it's very well resource currently staff giving their time and effort to working with the Noosa Junction Association to manage issues and in constant and work and to improve the precincts as we've heard this is the risk of notified motions it does risk providing attention and resources away from things and precincts that work that the Council is already committed to such as the Placemaking Program we've had Pomona was done it was always understood that Tewantin or Kin Kin two communities that are experiencing growing pains would be in need of a placemaking process and we're yet to make a decision on which one that ought to be but this motion allows us to continue to work staff continue to work with the junction traders to improve the precinct while allowing our allowing us to honour our existing commitments to other communities in the Shire for placemaking because their need is just as great if not greater and there's nothing to say that the work that's being done will go to waste there's a lot of very good research that's being done and that can be any way any engagement with them the Noosa Junction Association can be informed by the work that's been done in terms of all those other models and I commend this to Councillors and I hope that they will support it because it means we can continue to support the Noosa well Junction Association manage the emerging issues there as well honour as our commitments to other areas of the Shire. Brian Stockwell 32:59.326
Councillor Wegener. Tom Wegener 33:01.131
Does anybody else think that actually nullifies the original report by any means? Frank Wilkie 33:06.747
I can answer that. Brian Stockwell 33:09.417
So the bigger question is that yeah, no it doesn't. You're basically saying you're noting the report and you're suggesting a different way forward. Amelia Lorentson 33:21.750
So, question again, just following up, whether it's ultra vires and if that's the original intent of the report. Going the report title is Noosa Junction Precinct Management Models Assessment and the recommendation is to do what we're doing. Brian Stockwell 33:44.224
There is no other motion on the books. Councillor Wegener brought up the issue where there was a direct negative that only relates if there was a prior motion. There is a motion in response to a report which is perfectly legal. Tom Wegener 33:59.490
Okay. Question. With COVID, the world has changed substantially. Will this, seems like it might be an opportunity to stay with the BID, to bring the people together post-COVID, which probably haven't spoken with each other, the stakeholder groups, including the residents. Is that what you sort of see this going towards? Anita Lakeland 34:26.515
The proposed bid investigation? The bid investigation, yeah. Well, it is a collaboration process to bring people around to the table by identifying who those stakeholders are and bringing them together and working through and coming up with a plan and a framework, so. So, yes, it does bring people together. And it is post-COVID. Tom Wegener 34:50.388
Can I speak to that? I see the I see. You the Mayor, you weren't here after the discussion, after the last meeting we had at the committee meeting. And what I found was that there was really quite a lot of enthusiasm by staff for this project going forward. I point I out that the residents, the businesses, and the residents, the landowners of the businesses, and the renters are at war with each other basically. There's always a conflict between those three and it seems though they're not on the same team, but this is an opportunity to get these people around the table, where the Junction Association isn't in, that's not in their space, especially to be dealing with the residents. The new Noosa Chamber of commerce, this isn't in their space to deal with this, so I see that the junction actually does need some sort of intervention with the stakeholders that are not going to sit around the table with each other because they're at odds with each other, their goals. And so I think that this is necessary for the junction to evolve itself, to have one heck of a red hot go at some sort of common vision amongst the stakeholders. We because have the Civic going to start over there real soon. And when that starts popping up, I think that the junction actually needs a bit of its own identity. So I support the original motion and I won't support this motion. Frank Wilkie 36:38.877
Just a clarifying question, under current arrangements. Amelia Lorentson 36:43.674
Council justice point of order, Council justice wilkes has had a hand raised for some time. Brian Stockwell 36:49.284
I did, I missed it. It's not a point of order. Councillor Phillips, are you happy to wait further after Councillor Wilkie? Jessica Phillips 36:56.685
Can I just ask I've had my hand up a few times that you've missed. Is it possible that you could have my settings on your computer so you can see me raise my hand? But in this case, I'm happy to let it slide, but it's happened a couple of times to me now. Brian Stockwell 37:12.314
Won't be looking generally at the screen, so I'll try and do that while we talk, but yes, okay, I'll see what I can do. Frank Wilkie 37:22.746
Isn't it possible, is it possible under the current arrangements for all stakeholders to be brought together to work towards a common vision? Anita Lakeland 37:30.351
So. Yes. Council could be a facilitator of that. Frank Wilkie 37:35.453
And that's possible under the priorities of this motion that's before you? Yes. Okay. And at the same time, it would allow us to conduct. The placemaking projects in other parts of the Shire that we're committed to. Anita Lakeland 37:50.917
It would be less resource intensive than undertaking a full feasibility investigation into a bid and what framework that might look like. Frank Wilkie 38:00.428
Yeah. Which is the reason why I raised the motion Council. Us to go over everything you've said, but also the plasmid. Brian Stockwell 38:09.174
Okay, Council okay, Councillor Phillips. Jessica Phillips 38:12.900
Thank you. I just think I really need to understand what this motion before us will do for Council that is different to what we're currently doing now. And I understand there's been conversation that it changes things, but maybe I just need to understand. It more. To me, it's kind of doing what we're already doing. Can you clarify to me, from this motion, what staff will do differently to what we're currently doing? Anita Lakeland 38:51.453
Well, I guess this motion would give a direction to probably take action to actually, I guess, move on this and engage with all the stakeholders. Yeah, it might give a bit more impetus to what we're already doing. Frank Wilkie 39:12.646
I can say in answer to your question, Jess, the staff have done work about a variety of precinct management models which they can have regard to and apply depending on what issues are emerging that they can engage with and collaborate with the Noosa Junction Association, the OLGR and QPS and residents going forward. The work isn't wasted, so they'll be able to engage more in a more informed way. At the same time, it will allow us to fulfil our obligations to have place making in other parts of the Shire because the resource that will be involved in a more intensive bid process will not be. As engaged as they would be if it was the full on bid process in the junction. Amelia Lorentson 40:03.539
Can I make an amendment please? I'd like to try an amendment C. That Council engage with relevant news. New I'd like to try an amendment C. That Council engage with relevant misadjunctions, news. So stakeholders I call this. Including the wider community. To discuss potential establishment of a precinct management framework on the Business Improvement District model within the Noosa Junction Hospitality Precinct. Is this what you've been worried about? No. Sorry. So we'll wipe that there up. Karen Finzel 40:57.300
Through the Chair. Can I just raise a question while we're waiting here, because it might be pertinent. I just have a question. From the recommendation and the place making, which we invested a lot of time and money in community engagement, the recommendation was that we look at setting up and supporting town team movements. Question to the staff, through the Chair. Is the town team movement process, would this be a better framework to be applicable around this conversation or why is it not being considered? Anita Lakeland 41:33.273
It could be used in this to deal with and bring stakeholders around. The table. It's a movement that Council is hands off from, so it would require someone, one of the stakeholders to commence and start that town team, sign up, to the protocols and actually commence that process. But Council can certainly put on the table as a suggestion, we're but hands off. Brian Stockwell 42:05.380
Okay, so have we got a seconder for Councillor Lorentson? I think I missed the end of it. So. Amelia Lorentson 42:10.059
Oh, sorry. I'll send my email to the precinct. To discuss the potential establishment of a precinct management framework based on the Business Improvement District model within the Noosa Junction hospitality precinct. Okay, so potential establishment- Oh, sorry. Potential establishment--- Of a precinct management framework based on the Business Improvement District model within the Noosa Junction hospitality precinct. Oh. You. Potential establishment of a precinct management framework based on the Business Improvement District BID model within the Noosa Junction hospitality precinct. Frank Wilkie 43:56.548
Question to the staff. Yes, be. Would the implementation of the business the improvement district model within the Noosa Junction hospitality precinct require the resourcing to a level that would impede the Placemaking Program that we're doing? The implementation of the Business Improvement District model in the Noosa Junction hospitality precinct impact require the placemaking resource to the point where we wouldn't be able to fulfil our commitments for placemaking in other location in the Shire as we promised. Anita Lakeland 44:49.213
I'd have to think about that to be honest as to how much time that specific task would take but it certainly would divert existing resources away terms of whether they could continue to do other the placemaking programs. I'd have to see what the time allocation would take but it would mean that yes there would be less time to look at other placemaking projects. Nicola Wilson 45:18.732
Is this going further than what the original recommendation was? Because that was only to investigate and this is now to establish. And looking at funding. Brian Stockwell 45:27.249
So that would be a question to the mover. Amelia Lorentson 45:34.711
So for the question is does it go further than the original motion? Nicola Wilson 45:40.423
Is to investigate. This is your staff report. Almost. Amelia Lorentson 45:45.154
I'll notice that the Council engage with the work relevant including which to discuss. The potential establishment up to excuse me and I thank you for the correction that is not correctly written to gauge um to gauge support yes so if we could change discuss to gauge support or otherwise yep so just six if we can just change the word to discuss to gauge support or otherwise for the potential establishment thank you and thanks for the correction Council note. So the same wording as the recommendation that was brought to staff number B I would like to be reinstated. Thank you. Brian Stockwell 46:43.106
We'll wait to go up. It hasn't been executed so been there's no need to adjust it. We'll have you second if that's. Yeah, you may second. We're just waiting for it to come up on the screen. Oh, that's right, yeah. It's yes, good. So, Councillors, you're aware what the amendment now says? Councillor Lorentson, you have to move. Frank Wilkie 47:11.778
Is this the correct wording now? Amelia Lorentson 47:14.528
Yes, with the inclusion of wider community, so it captures older chambers, and most importantly, it captures residents that are impacted that need a seat at the table, and the reason why this motion is brought to us. Brian Stockwell 47:38.880
Councillor Lorentson. Amelia Lorentson 47:40.102
I'll speak to this. So after the Planning & Environment Committee Meeting, myself and Councillor Wegener and Councillor Stockwell, we sat with the Director. And staff and spoke in some detail about what was happening in the junction. And there were discussions that there are ongoing escalating issues around noise and safety. And getting worse not better. We talked about what's happening in the junction. There is significant growth. This is not like any other precinct. We already know at the moment underway we've got the Calile development. We already know at the moment we've got the Noosa Drive upgrade. We know at the southern end near the transit centre we've got retail and housing. We know that the Coles development site, people look at it and there's potential redevelopment there. We know behind The J, behind the cinema that we're investigating. Is affordable housing. The precinct is currently undergoing significant transformation. In the next five years it won't be the junction that we know. So communities expectation, congestion, noise safety, all the issues that we're hearing today, that's just going to get worse. We have an opportunity today to plan and manage the precinct. You know, we do nothing, changes. It's one of my favourite sayings. Doing nothing is not a strategy. Reacting to problems as they come is not a strategy. Kicking the can down the road is not a strategy. We've got an opportunity to get all the key stakeholders around the table to talk face to I've spoken to the residents that can't sleep at night, I've spoken to the business owners who are frustrated that they can't invest or grow their businesses because they're always looking over their they're terrified with compliance actions, with complaints. This is an opportunity to get people around the table. And I keep stressing, it's an invitation. If the people that are impacted, the stakeholders, if they don't want to progress down this path, this motion dies. If they want to progress it, then we start exploring it. Then we start understanding what's the feasibility. Are the costs? Equity issues, really great questions that have been raised around the table. But that happens after we understand whether this is a way forward. Staff have done quite a lot of work in precinct management frameworks. They've and we've come back and said. And you know, this is an improvement district. That's nothing new. This has been proven and effective. New South Wales at the moment are moving legislation at a state level to legislate on this bits because it's proven effective in high, in areas like this where there's land use conflicts. So, so I just think we have an opportunity to plan and future-proof. For the new Noosa Junction precinct. We need to provide certainty to the residents. We need to tell them, "Hey, we're listening and your night's sleep matters." And we need to go back to the businesses and say, you guys need certainty and you guys need confidence to grow and invest. We need to tell the developers and people that own businesses in the junction that we need to work with them to. Intentionally shape the precinct. And the intention of that precinct is we want a family-friendly, safe precinct where. It's lively and livable. And the only way we're going to do this is we're eagerly future-proof the junction and start exploring these established, effective frameworks like a Business Improvement District. So I really hope everyone supports C which is simply an invitation to get the people that are most impacted to talk to them and say hey guys do you think this is a way forward. Jessica Phillips 52:20.146
You I just really listening to everyone around the table speaking of equity do think when current issues and trends arise it's time for us to pivot and put resources where occur. We've done it in the past with Kin Kin Quarry and times where there's been something that has risen in our community and we've had to say well hang on that's where our focus now needs to be. One thing that I'd like about notified motions is that and especially with this one it actually forward current social and local trends to the forefront of our mind because our Corporate Plan and our operational plans they're strategic so sometimes when these big things arise in our community and pop up that it gives us the opportunity to say well hang on this really is impacting our community so this one I do I don't want status quo with this I think it's really important that we do address the concerns that have been raised by multiple different groups businesses community like residents QPS there's been times where the junction has been spoken know spoken about safety concerns we've even had a deputation in the past from a community member that had you know an assault on a family member and we've heard those stories around that community it's um that there it is highlighted to us that we need to do something about it status quo isn't working I want to see the people that have a voice for that precinct have a say including the widest community if they feel they want to you know have a voice there as well because it is becoming more popular there's definitely changes happening there so for me I just want to make sure today we come out of this report that gives staff and really quite clear parameters that we want to see them hold that forum and have people at the table that are being impacted and come up with a solution together whether it means that then Council step back and a lead agency takes or there's multiple groups that take the lead on it but I certainly think if we just say oh you know well it'll go away, think it's probably only going to get worse and then we'll have um maybe down the track it'll cost us even more so for me I'm happy today if we just say like we need to do something about it that's pretty obvious because of um there's certain things we've heard um that I've addressed so yeah I'm happy to support that um that we engage with the groups and that see comes through I agree with Tom what you said as well that it's certainly been um brought to our attention so thanks. Frank Wilkie 55:37.680
Look all the initiatives that have been mentioned around the table about getting every all the stakeholders around the table taking on board all the things we've heard in deputations uh all the pleas from businesses about how the junction is changing the place from residents about the noise managing the noise conflicts all that can happen under the arrangement that we have in place which are already quite advanced for a business precinct like the junction which has its own levy and a well-advanced and well-developed business association under the current arrangements all those issues and collaborations can occur the difference with this one is it would commit the Council to a level of resourcing that would preclude other precincts missing out on some level of attention there is developments and evolution and changes happening in other areas like Tewantin which will get 32 social housing units on the block behind the main CBD another block in Moorindil St is being purchased by the State government parking is an issue there we've got a new hotel there access is an issue there they've been calling for placemaking as well as Kin Kin. Has issues. One of the reasons why Kin Kin was put forward as potential areas for placemaking was because of all the communities in the Shire it rated the lowest on the liveability score. Noosa Junction, Noosa Heads, very high. All these issues about the new developments that are occurring in the junction, there's already a collaborative model in place they're very well serviced. This is the risk with notified motions. It diverts resources away from commitments already in place and from other areas of need. So all very good points made by Councillors Lorentson and Phillips about what we've all heard collectively. The point I'm trying to make is that we have a model for already dealing with that effectively, that can be ramped up, but it would not preclude us honouring our commitment to areas of the Shire that are not well-developed, don't even have their own levies, don't even have well-developed business associations, but they might have community associations which are in need of help, and we'll be able to do that if we don't commit to C. But we'll be able to implement the principles. Of the Business Improvement District, they can inform the discussions had with the Noosa Junction Association and the relevant stakeholders. It doesn't stop that happening, it doesn't stop people coming round the table, but it does also allow us to honour our commitments to elleswell and the Shire. Tom Wegener 58:38.100
So like that. This is a response to a notice of motion to investigate precinct management in the Noosa Junction and that was passed, that was a notice of motion that was passed. Staff have come back with a way forward and this off this way forward in response to the notice motion brings an opportunity to help stakeholders to face off with each other and the staff said last week that the Noosa Junction Association and the chamber actually aren't set up for this and that this actually will help them do what they want they to want to do that the people go going forward to get as a clear facilitator in this to bring the stakeholders including the residents to the table where the Noosa Junction Association doesn't. The residents aren't a stakeholder there and the Noosa Junction Association anyway. Blah blah blah. Four, I appreciate that and I really enjoy the enthusiasm of the staff that they really support this thing. They can really have a red hot go at this and of course it's just an investigation. It's not, we're not, the resources last time that we spoke at the committee meeting we're was not reflective of what we're talking about today to stopping a place making someplace else. This is stuff that is already happening that the staff is already doing like you said they're already doing it but it gives them more of a direction and I think that the precinct may be best served with cooperation and this is an idea to have a try at cooperation amongst the residents, all the different people, and if it doesn't work, back up, I suspect that you're not going to force it, this isn't going to be shoved at anybody's throat, is it going to work? No? Okay, if it doesn't work, it's an investigation, it's not committing resources, you know, other than a few, other than a handful of hours that came out last time to see if this, you know, that's, so I'm in support of the staff recommendation, which is to see here. Nicola Wilson 01:00:52.097
Thank you I was supposed to have I was supportive of the research, so thank you for that, and given the history in the area, this definitely would have evaluated all of these approaches, but I don't support further action on a bid. The report aims to compare strategies for addressing land use conflicts between entertainment venues and nearby residents, and to manage the interface between hospitality venues and residential areas. I'm not clear from the report how a bid will have any clear impact on that interface. Those complaints and issues arising from those venues fall under the office of liquor and gaming, and we already have the CALM Noosa liquor report. In the terms of evaluation frameworks-- makes it clear that most of those are not relevant to Noosa Junction. The proposed bid is a business model that is not legislated or currently applied in Queensland and goes beyond the scope of local government services. Noosa Junction businesses already-- pay levy and see no reason for Council to find additional ways to levy businesses to fund another layer of micromanaging in meetings in an area where Council doesn't have resources or funding to support it. And it isn't really in our usual core business. If this is an initiative for the business community, Council isn't going to get involved and the news adoption association is already working on a number of initiatives. The report says the bid model presents strategic and focussing framework for managing the precinct, empowering local businesses to jointly initiatives that boost the area's vibrancy safety and long-term economic resilience. I can't see how this is welcome beyond what the Noosa Junction Association is already doing, or how it offers a potential pathway to address persistent land use tensions between hospitality revenues and URI residents, or how the bid's collective mechanism. Could be used in potentially resolving long-standing land use conflicts through coordinated management. Nice words, not really sure how they are mentionable. We're supposed to be finishing what we've started with no new initiatives. And this is not an emerging issue. The report refers to the well-known long-standing land use conflicts. But even this investigation into the suitability of it could take six to twelve months, which does not help us to Resolve those conflicts in any meaningful time frame, especially when the local business association is already working on initiatives to manage the precinct. Risks have been noted in the report, including the absence of dedicated bid legislation in Queensland, raising expectations about Council's ability to fund administrative support, infrastructure commitments and stakeholder engagement costs. In attachment 1, the evaluation of options, there is no mention of any advantages or improvements for residents in managing amenity issues. In fact, the only mention of residents is in the disadvantages, with the risk that businesses and residents in proximity outside the precincts area may feel excluded from decision making that will impact on them. We funded and resourced Council to deliver the 2025-26 operational plan. That's where staff should be focused. The businesses and all the bits and pieces of work regularly. Amelia Lorentson 01:03:58.191
Can I ask some questions through the Chair please? Sure. Reference was made that the motion was proposing a bid model to sit within the Noosa Junction Hospitality Precinct. Is that correct? Because my understanding is. Brian Stockwell 01:04:13.748
It's not a question, you're trying to debate. Sorry. I'm not accepting your question, so if you want to move on to the next one. You were debating your point, trying to use a question. Amelia Lorentson 01:04:25.675
My question is, a precinct management framework for the Noosa Junction, can it be specific to the needs of the stakeholders, key stakeholders? Yes, it can. So a so our improvement district model is the intention of the motion that we set up a Business Improvement District model for the junction. Anita Lakeland 01:05:01.347
The recommendation in the report, it's initially to gauge support or otherwise from stakeholders on a. Bid-like framework and then, depending on that support, then undertake an investigation and feasibility of what may be suitable for Noosa Junction based on, you know, that kind of framework. But it would be adapted to a Noosa Junction context, thank you very much. Karen Finzel 01:05:32.166
Oh yeah, I just want to say, look, I think, you know, a lot of work's going into this and I thank everyone that's really put valued contribution and the conversations around the table. I feel we've missed a step if we want to stage this and have it inclusive for everyone. I feel like we've narrowed it down a bit, especially when we've had a strategic, you know, our Corporate Plan speaks to what we're doing. Set a budget. We're on our way. And yes, I don't think we're supporting status quo because we're having a conversation around the table. I'm just questioning, is there a better way? Now, recommendations, in my opinion, out of the promote placemaking and you we're heading across the Shire, a recommendation after investment in that resource, hours of community engagement, a recommendation is the Tewantin movement. Now, all the things that have been said around the table today, I think fit that. So, you know, when you look at it, they're looking at people coming together, the business community, the residents and local governments. They talk about context, community development, urban design planning, economic development, engineering and infrastructure, sustainability and caring for place, arts, culture and innovation, and community development. So I think it ticks all the things we've talked about today, fit that, we've invested in that, we've got outcomes from that, been a huge investment from Council and staff and community. I think it provides equity and I think what we've done today is we might be missing a step preceding heading to. Towards the big model which, you know, fine that's what we're discussing before us here today. I think missing this gap to me, if you analyse it, there's a gap there that answers all the questions in my opinion that have been raised around the table today. I would like to see that we put something up that actually looks at supporting the Tewantin movement, staff have told us today that no impost of Council at the moment, which seems there's been huge discussion at the table today. May I suggest we put this forward and debate that as an opportunity. A stepping stone towards the outcomes we're seeing because I think you know the whole Shire, yes it's been raised, we understand this development and these impacts are Shire-wide. Yes I take on board that before us is the Noosa Junction but I feel like we've missed a step. In progressing this forward. Is there an opportunity, we've heard from Councillor Nicola today that this could take six to twelve months. Is there a way we could use the time better in the next to perhaps support a town team collaborative approach to allow the voice of our beneficiaries to bring to the conversation what they would like to say. You know they're not here today telling us exactly what all these stakeholders have in mind. You know we want to hear what they're saying, we want to support them. The reason we're here and seeking good governance and investing in placemaking is to give voice to the people we are serving. How can we do that better? Is this the best way to do that? How do we bring their lived experience and their voice to this conversation? I think the recommendation, the town team movement, which came out of strategies, engagement, investment and time to hear what our communities have to say. I would recommend something that if we actually didn't come up in the report, it may have, I don't think I read it, around that as one of the options that we could do to gather information along the way and inform models including the BID and other frameworks. So that's, what I would like to raise today. And together, we're all here supporting our community, we understand the impacts, we understand the congestion, the struggle is how now do we implement new ways of being and have collaborative leadership where every voice and our lived experience counts. Brian Stockwell 01:09:41.025
We can look at this I from m number going of to start from the perspective of what Councillor Phillips raised in terms of lead agency. These issues are matters controlled by the Queensland Police Service and office of liquor, gaming and licensing. We that's why the notice of motion was about issues that we didn't have the lead agency role. Certainly everyone around the table wants to ensure that Noosa Junction goes through its growing pains and its re-evolution into a hospitality precinct. That is good for all ages and also good for the residents around but principally the issues are ones that we aren't the lead agency and then we look at the other concern about is it by passing this of continuing from a notice of motion into further a of further assessment of district framework or something akin to it of the business improvement is that a wise use of staff resources and is it equitable? We have Council hookies talked about it's a potential impact on the so we have Council hookies talked about it's a potential impact on the place making but we know we've got a small strategic planning team and they have multiple different projects going I'd like to remind you that in 2019, 2019 there was a significant outcry in Pomona about the lack of protection of their heritage it was over a hundred signatures maybe the petition may have been individual we undertook to do an amendment of the Planning Scheme to further reflect the community's protect heritage that's five years ago when we got that scheme approved by the minister there was a requirement there to document a process of how we were going to incorporate the latest climate change model it still hasn't happened five years ago if we continue to have good ideas and go into areas which are not necessarily our lead responsibility it means our important work just continually to be put back and put back I agree with what Council said at the beginning in their talk to amendment there is a lot of things happening in the junction and there's probably a tool that we could use to address it and that is a place making approach but that's a decision that we have to compare against the previous commitments to other towns for it and compare and contrast I'm with Councillor Wilson is that the motion has suggested a way forward but continuing to investigate is something that at this stage I don't think is a priority for Council to what it's already suggesting it wanted to do in a longer term fashion in terms of the operational plan and the Corporate Plan. I do think that we can continue. I think the difference between the two approaches, if I read Councillor Wilkie's initial motion, I think the difference is one could probably do with existing resources potentially, mainly within the economic development team that works with the business associations to focus and start driving it. The other one would mean that there would be an allocation of strategic planning time to actually develop this design. The consultation to create the collateral and the communications materials that would be required. Noting that I don't think there's any budget in this financial year for that, and so that's why I don't support the addition that I received. Put Councillor Lorentson, you can close. Amelia Lorentson 01:13:23.916
You've got a question? Jessica Phillips 01:13:27.585
No, it is. It was earlier I had my hand up for a point of order. I don't know if it's allowed after the moment. Brian Stockwell 01:13:36.267
For a point of order you'd need to say, but you can if it's something relating to something I said. Jessica Phillips 01:13:45.316
Yes, it is. I can't sit online and listen to the tone of voice you use at the Council, Lorentson, anymore, Mr Chair. There is a way we can address each other respectfully at the table and I don't believe the way that you are dealing with it is appropriate. So I'm just going to ask that the last time I hear the tone of voice you used at Council, Lawrence, and you can address the issue without the extra aggression. Thanks. Brian Stockwell 01:14:18.083
So I'm perplexed because I have no thought of. Actually, I thought that it was. Did anyone perceive any aggression? Jessica Phillips 01:14:30.144
I've got the time in the recording. Brian Stockwell 01:14:32.126
We can go back to it later. I'll have a look at it, but certainly, Councillor Phillips, there was no aggression, and I thought my tone and voice was typical of me. It may have sounded worse, but I take it I don't believe there was a point of order. So, Councillor Lorentson. Amelia Lorentson 01:14:54.765
I'm just going to address a few things that were raised just in discussion. But first of all, notified motion diverts resourcing. Notified motions are Council's rights to raise emergent and current issues in the community. I need that said. Secondly, what's in front of us is not, we're not proposing a bid model. We're proposing a Noosa Junction specific precinct management and framework. We're looking at proven models such as a Business Improvement District model and see and asking are they applicable for this junction. Third, conversations. Again, I revert back to in-depth conversations with our Director, Tom, Councillor Wegener and myself. Councillor Wilkie also sitting at the table. They may made it clear and they were enthusiastic about this way forward. Oh, excuse me, Councillor Stockwell, excuse me. And their words were that this way forward would make the job easier. It would allow certainty clarity. And collaboration. It would allow all the key stakeholders, including the residents that are impacted. You can't sleep at night. It would allow them to sit face to and talk it out. She also said that they with these issues in the junction daily and at the moment there's conversations going left, right and centre. This model brings all these conversations together. Also, there has been quite a lot of conversations with the University of the Sunshine Coast. In fact, this morning I received an email from the university keen to come on board with and help us with the pre-Centre management framework. We have met with past members the Noosa Junction Association keen to explore management framework. I can't say that with the current, there's a new board so I can't speak on their behalf. I've also spoken in the last few weeks with residents who don't sleep at night. I've also spoken in the last few weeks with businesses who are scared of putting live music, all are keen to do something more than what we are doing at the moment. Councillor Phillips, Councillor Wegener, kicking, I agree with you guys, we can't maintain the status quo. Our job as a Council is to future proof, is strategic planning and sometimes we don't know what's. Happening until it happens. So keep coming back to we've got two choices. Keep the can down the road and do what we're doing which is reactive planning or do what we're supposed to be doing which is strategic planning. For the future. Mention around the table was that we need to respect and give our community the people that we represent a voice. How do we bring their lived experience this table? That is exactly what this motion or amendment is proposing to do. It's proposing to respect the people that have come here through deputations telling us we can't sleep at night. It's giving the people. The small businesses who employ our kids who just want to earn a living, it's giving them a voice because they need certainty, they need confidence to invest in their business. To employ people, our kids. So how do we bring their lived experience to the table? It's around the table. It's by establishing or discussing the opportunity of a precinct management framework that could look like a Business Improvement District model or it could not. So. We've got the opportunity. We've got the opportunity to provide certainty to those businesses, to those residents. We've got an opportunity to be proactive and collaborate and we've got an opportunity to, you know, deviate from the status quo, because if we do nothing, Councillors, nothing changes. Brian Stockwell 01:19:53.594
I'll put the motion to the amendment. Those in favour? That's Councillor Lorentson, Wegener and Phillips. Those against? That's Councillor Finzel, Wilkie and Wilson and Stockwell. The amendment has been lost. We go back to the original motion, which I believe Councillor Wilkie has talked to. Do we have anyone else wishing to talk to the substantive motion? Amelia Lorentson 01:20:24.728
Could we have a look at the motion sheet, please? It's coming up. Thank you. Jessica Phillips 01:20:37.720
I have a question too, please. Sure. Just in relation to the placemaking, can either, through the CEO, just a reminder where we're at with, where have we allocated the next place? That would be allocated that resource for placemaking? Larry Sengstock 01:21:01.381
I don't believe we've allocated it specifically. I think we've focused on Pomona. There has been some, there was some discussion around the next one, but I don't believe that we've got a final decision on that. Anita Lakeland 01:21:14.080
Correct, previously it had been discussed Tewantin or Kin Kin, but a decision was still pending. Brian Stockwell 01:21:21.480
I believe in the motion accepting Pomona, I think there was a part of that identified those two as the next two priorities. Larry Sengstock 01:21:28.262
Yeah, which one is this? Jessica Phillips 01:21:33.978
Oh, the white question, can you just remind me how they were prioritised, please? Brian Stockwell 01:21:40.878
Yep. Anita Lakeland 01:21:44.118
There was an assessment done, it was probably about. Four years ago now, three or four years ago, to determine the greatest need, based on some criteria, and it came out that Pomona and readiness for a Placemaking Program, Pomona came out on top, and then it was Kin Kin and Tewantin, which followed in terms of that prioritisation of greatest need. So it was a Council decision. Okay. And that went through Council. Jessica Phillips 01:22:18.157
And sorry, so it only went through to make Pomona the first one, but that was three or four years ago, and then the decision now about the next one is coming to us again. Is that how that will work? Anita Lakeland 01:22:34.562
Yes, at the moment. The program is focused on implementation of the actions out of the Pomona plan, and with limited resources that's determined that would be the focus to make sure the plan is implemented and it's a success. Amelia Lorentson 01:22:50.242
Question through the chief. Placemaking at time the of epitome decision, my recollection was that it would be annual, that we would designate an area and budget for placemaking every year. Is that still the case? Anita Lakeland 01:23:05.843
There's been no budget allocation for the 25-26. Placemaking. So there was, in the 22, 23, 24, 25 budget, a rollover amount. The project was over two years. It was a pilot. It was about making sure. Process was right and the community were engaged, and the outcome was delivering what it was aiming to deliver. But, yeah, there's no allocation in this year's budget. Thank you. Larry Sengstock 01:23:43.002
Other than, as you're aware, Councillor, there's a resource. We've allocated a resource. And then the projects come through, you know, projects and other works that are happening to deliver against the placemaking plan. Amelia Lorentson 01:23:58.260
So the final placemaking project is expected to be complete in two years? Larry Sengstock 01:24:05.007
Well, that's the thing that we need to consider. It's my understanding it's the implementation phase is not as simple as putting a date to it, I think it's one of those ongoing, at some point we need to then say well that's, we've now got to a point, now we can move on to the next. But we haven't got to that point yet. Anita Lakeland 01:24:22.335
It's in a phase of the short quick wins, some of the two year actions, supporting the Tewantin tarantino's movement which is now establishing from the community. But it is, the plan itself is a longer term plan. There will be actions that are rolled out over a longer period. Can I ask you a question? Amelia Lorentson 01:24:44.531
Making project in smaller villages, I can see it's application in places like Cooroy, but in an area like Noosa Junction where. Is it suitable for a business precinct and there is residential precinct which is really quite different to any other village or precincts in Noosa Shire? Is the place making project actually suitable for Noosa Junction? Anita Lakeland 01:25:18.357
Absolutely. Mostly place making projects are centred around a village, a town centre, because that's where every community comes together and that's where all the activities are and supported by residential around it. So absolutely Noosa Junction, as is all of our centres. Brian Stockwell 01:25:43.817
Can I test. Karen Finzel 01:25:45.874
If we added a C under here to include going back to the all the people we're representing to see if they would consider the framework of a town team option together what they want to say to bring them back to the next step can we make that for a debate in the junction well yeah because I think you know what I'm hearing around the table I think we're sitting intersection of the pains of change and I think it's a being an identify it's an adaptive challenge of how we provide leadership in this fast-moving space I don't know I just feel I that we've had a recommendation sitting up can we I take that to the debate I don't know yet so you're not here those people so I'm just looking at an option that's right to move this. Brian Stockwell 01:26:44.708
Forward you could move an amendment to that effect suggesting town a team but you'd you need to have the words I'm going could I suggest if you would like to go down write down what you think I'm going to try something else as an amendment if we could deal with yours after that unless you were ready to move go to. Karen Finzel 01:27:08.485
Add to engage with relevant Noosa Junction stakeholders to gauge support or otherwise for the potential establishment of a town teams model within the Noosa Junction hospital hospitality precinct. Brian Stockwell 01:27:27.031
Should that be more worth it? The question with a town's team model that wouldn't be I don't think limited to that the last within the Noosa Junction hospitality would be in the local area. Karen Finzel 01:27:40.222
I think what I'm hearing is we need to get everyone at the table I feel like we've just got a gap in our steps towards where we want to be and I think you know these pain points. Brian Stockwell 01:27:51.894
It's a debating the amendment I'm just a question of staff can I just work with Council to get to the what's on the screen my suggestion would be to finish it instead of within the Noosa Junction local area oh yeah so you've changed that are you happy with that wording there now. Karen Finzel 01:28:09.933
With the area because I think that also gives inclusion for you know our residents and everyone. I think it's also okay so I'll just get you to move that yeah yes. Brian Stockwell 01:28:20.329
And I'll second it so for the purpose of debate and if you can talk to it now Councillor Finzel. Karen Finzel 01:28:25.818
I think this may the opportunity to address all the issues raised around the table today I'd like to just put it to the debate to see if you know in my opinion I think in there's a gap where we are and where we want to go now I think we probably don't have all the language around the table around I think the discord sits between technical and regulation where we've got to sit and also looking at adaptive leadership to where we want to go and we've got to facilitate that and bring everyone on the journey and everyone's voice does matter and doing that I think it gives us opportunities through this process to honour traditions, history, heritage and culture and that through the suffering that everyone's had at the moment we can still engage with our identity and our connection to each other in our place. So I just think I'd this like to bring this to the table to hear about questions to the staff and or debate around this as a stepping stone that is inclusive, that goes beyond the status quo, but also honouring, you know, the strategic work that we've up-to-date. I'm happy to test that if everyone wants to join me on the journey. Amelia Lorentson 01:29:54.828
Councillor Phillips has her hand up. Jessica Phillips 01:29:58.540
Thank you, question, Karen. I get the intent. Can you please explain to me how this is different from what we saw with Councillor Lorentson's amendment to see if there's appetite for exactly what you were suggesting? Can you just explain to me how this will be different? Karen Finzel 01:30:22.351
Well, I think it's not prescriptive on bed, the I don't think it addresses a gap where we give a broader opportunity to have voice at the table that people want what they say. And I just think the town team model has come out of a placemaking project that was recommended as a stepping stone to I think address all the issues raised today. Just think it parts a bit of that technical framework which would do, you know, recognise what we need, however I think this might provide, I don't know, if you want to call it a middle ground or address a gap towards that where we want to go. Jessica Phillips 01:31:13.820
I just am sorry to clarify though, to be less descriptive, I'm not, I still need to understand what town teams model, if it was going to be a suggestion in or it is a suggestion in Pomona placemaking, how that will bring everyone that, because the junction precinct has different stakeholders with our LGR and, well, I mean they do have some licence venues at Pomona, but there's different needs in that junction precinct that I don't believe were raised in the placemaking, so. Karen Finzel 01:31:54.247
I'm happy to like let the staff answer that, but my limited knowledge around the town teams is exactly bringing about. Community together as a collective to address the needs that everyone has around the people in the place. I'll put it over to staff to give us probably a better description. Anita Lakeland 01:32:17.648
Actually, it is about bringing people and place together. It's a town. Tames town teams is a model that was developed out of WA and it's I don't know the specific detail but broadly speaking they have set a protocols to which how people deal with each other when they come together it's driven by the community you know they set it up they develop the framework they develop the protocols as long as they meet you know the overarching town teams movement it's supported by the town teams movement and you know they can assist in developing the framework for them or whatever model that they work out for their town started sorry, day their 10. Town. It is a collaboration model of bringing people in the community different issues together working through it could be anything from you know some of the examples that the ips which was one of the examples that you know they had community gardens and you know some actions that they can collectively bring but they also had actions and advocacy to state government around various issues so it can be wide-reaching but it really depends on that community coming together and working together and having a you know I guess a plan and a common goal and actions and where they want to spend their time. There's no levy associated with it unless of course they came to Council and wanted a levy implemented through the means that we have but yeah it's a little bit different but it's still about collaboration and placemaking which is not just about infrastructure it's also about bringing people together. Brian Stockwell 01:34:14.968
Does that answer your question, Phillips? Jessica Phillips 01:34:19.807
Um for now I think. Brian Stockwell 01:34:21.729
Yeah basically the key difference is uh town teams are community led and organised rather than Council and big Council being involved as a formal organising or the investigator it's about the community and the stakeholders uh being self-organising. Councillor Lorentson and Heather. Amelia Lorentson 01:34:38.284
Yes my question is so the notice of motion and I'm reading what it actually said is that Council um see go prepare a report outlining options for managing land use conflicts between entertainment venues and residents it was an exploratory reports that investigate best practice increasing management to assess relevance and suitability um why wasn't town teams model or class making model why wasn't that concluded and investigated as the report because is a community lead like I'm just asking the question. Anita Lakeland 01:35:17.103
I guess the scope was kind of discussed and mapped out to be a more formalised kind of or what the motion maybe was getting to being more of a structured framework and that's why those kind of examples were investigated and it looked at current regulatory framework so Noosa Plan which is a land use management framework and deals with those I guess potential conflicts between residential and other business uses you know having measures around times and amplification and requirements for noise attenuation in new double residential buildings and things like that so that the report maps out what's the current you know statutory framework that we're working with and then you know including licensing liquor licensing and then it was well what else can we do which are those other precinct based frameworks so I guess that's where the investigation was led to. Why town teams specifically wasn't included. I guess it was looking as I said more about those precinct more structured arrangements around precinct management where Council was you know a potential lead agent in that as well. Brian Stockwell 01:36:56.769
I think Councillor Wilson had a hand up first. Jessica Phillips 01:36:59.842
A question on Councillor Finzel on the engagement with stakeholders. How would you envisage that would happen? What would be the method of engagement? Karen Finzel 01:37:09.720
Well that would have to go back to the staff because I don't know the process of how to set that up but. I think if we do try to put this together I would have to ask the staff what is that process but I think this, as I said, could be a stepping stone that addresses the pain point which is the struggle that I've identified between the technical aspects. And actually giving adaptive leadership and voice to our community that is going through huge change. So I feel there's a nice collaboration between those two conflicts and I threw the Chair back to the staff to go how would the process to engage community in this how would are that work? Amelia Lorentson 01:37:52.876
He wanted the resources? Implications? Anita Lakeland 01:37:56.144
That's so because it is a community-led movement they might not be aware of it so I new guess we can make subjunction junction or the stakeholders aware of the movement we can be a facilitator between the movement organiser I guess news Junction Association to actually have a presentation let them know about it but ultimately it's up to them whether they want to engage in it but we could facilitate the knowledge and provide advice around the movement but it is a it's more of a and there you go type thing. Karen Finzel 01:38:41.273
So sorry so does that still put value on the work that's being done currently around the really regulatory and type that of work that you know the commitments to regulations and you know planning and all those strategic things that is that comes along the journey right it's not for off the table if someone moves forward with the Tewantin framework. Anita Lakeland 01:39:13.478
Well those legislative frameworks exist regardless the plans the town plan exists all those regulations that currently work would continue. It would be up to the team the town teams and whoever was in that and joined that movement as to what their issues were and how they wanted to address it outside. Of that regulatory framework or however they wanted to do it so yeah it really is driven by them what are their issues what do they want to address you know what role do they want to play in it. Thank you. Jessica Phillips 01:39:54.333
Question around the town teams again with that decision to explore that as an option came out of the consultant, although, I just through lost my word. The consultation process for the placemaking. Is that how that recommendation came about. Anita Lakeland 01:40:24.526
It came through staff research and networks. Networking across placemaking models and the town teams movement providing information to staff that we thought, well, here's a great model for the community. Actually pick up and run with post Council's involvement in facilitating a place plan because I mean I guess ultimately with placemaking it's really about the community coming together and running with it so that we can say well you know great so that you know it's not all about Council. Resources time. And funding so it was just seen as a good model Australian developed that was one model that the community could pick up and run with but they may decide on another model. Brian Stockwell 01:41:20.753
Okay, good luck. Sorry have you got a supplementary question. Jessica Phillips 01:41:25.221
Yeah I did just because just I'm trying to work out the cart before the horse part with the placemaking was done on Pomona town teams was explored as part of that but we haven't done placemaking on the junction so I'm worried about making decisions that didn't come through the recommendation even though I understand the intent now behind the motion but I feel like we're making a decision so hang on so my question is would this ever play in the junk junction was put on a placemaking list of ones that identified that needs a placemaking would that not then come out of the recommendations that town teams come is explored but because of issues that were raised through deputations and things that we've heard that what we're exploring now is actually just trying to bring a community issue to the front and Resolve it through the recommendation that you put in front of us. Brian Stockwell 01:42:43.991
Yes I heard okay Councillor Lorentson. Amelia Lorentson 01:42:54.515
The town teams model so we're still at pilot stage at Pomona. Have we. Can you say at this early stage whether it's working and effective and should we wait until we have some data saying that this isn't effective but it does address issues such as noise. And again go back to similar to what Jess just said now what I raised before is if this was an effective proof proven model why wasn't it brought to us as part of the report because there's a lot of information a lot of work has been put into investigating pre-centre management models specifically to address the issue or the report was originally brought to Council which is to address noise issues and safety issues in the junction so is it too early with the town teams model to decide that it is an effective. Anita Lakeland 01:44:04.176
Precinct management tool. I guess that would be up to the community to determine you know if they have interest in it in terms of whether it's successful in Pomona the fact that the community have come to members of the community us are starting it. A town teams movement or model is successful because the community have embraced the work that was done through the placemaking pilot and want to take it further want to you know lead a future process you know you don't necessarily need to have done a town a placemaking exercise town team for a town team to so start is so it going to be able to address the key specific issues where this motion arose, quite possibly if they came together and all the stakeholders came together and they talked through how they might manage those issues the report was specific around frameworks that had a bit more structure to it and that's where that focused so yeah I can't answer that off. Frank Wilkie 01:45:24.555
The top of my head. Brian Stockwell 01:45:25.540
Councillor Wilkie. Frank Wilkie 01:45:25.782
Can this proposal be put to the nurse injunction association and if they go for it be initiated without dramatic impulse on staff resources? Anita Lakeland 01:45:40.618
Yes because it is largely a community-led process. They might invite Council to sit at staff or be involved but it's not something we're leading. Amelia Lorentson 01:45:53.161
Yeah okay thank you. So can you explain that so the Noosa Junction Association would then have to reach out to the entire Noosa Junction precinct and ask if they want to be involved in a town teams model. Is that how it works? Anita Lakeland 01:46:07.506
Well it depends on who picks it up. It may not be the Noosa Junction. It might be the residents that actually pick it up and run with it. So it's be or it might other stakeholders so it's not doesn't necessarily have to be business led. It could be resident led. It could be some key community members wanting to take the lead on it. It's nonspecific. Karen Finzel 01:46:32.939
Pindell. Yeah can I just you know people are questioning the validity I suppose of the town teams as an option. I'd just like to add that in 2024 the minister from local government sport and cultural industries, they won the ministers place innovation awards so just to give some credibility to that. Brian Stockwell 01:46:57.750
So Councillor Finzel, you were debating or you had your opening address, that's not appropriate. Nicola Wilson 01:47:02.618
So can I ask a question? No. Brian Stockwell 01:47:05.118
Because you've already answered it. I'll speak to the motion. Thank you. I'll speak to the motion. Amelia Lorentson 01:47:14.409
I won't support the amendment. I think it, we've got a report that's come to Council, and with. Respect to the staff that put in considerable times looking at precinct management models, I don't have enough information. I don't know what we're really sort of making a decision on. I just think that it's at this stage just you know hasn't been considered enough and I think we have a specific question. A report came back to us with specific recommendations and they are data driven and I respect again the work that the staff and their recommendation, didn't raise the potential. Establishment of a town to this model within the Noosa Junction local area and I respect Councillor Finzel her intention to get some middle ground but I think the middle ground might have been in the original which looked at all precinct management frameworks and would have captured the town teams model. This is too specific. Brian Stockwell 01:48:37.428
Others wish to talk wish to the talk to amendment? The Councillor Wilson. Jessica Phillips 01:48:39.922
I won't support it. I think the engagement part is too vague. It probably puts the costs back on staff to manage that part. So I think it should actually be a community led project. I can see how a town team model would work in implementing a plan but I don't think it's appropriate. I don't think it's something that's got issues in terms of legal licensing and that kind of thing. So I don't think it's an appropriate model. Brian Stockwell 01:49:06.697
Okay. Anyone else wish to talk? No, you have to close. Anita Lakeland 01:49:12.804
Oh, I'll close. Yeah. Is there anyone else? Cancel all. Frank Wilkie 01:49:15.444
Yeah, look, the reason why the promoter placemaking town teams model is working is because we had a very successful placemaking process that proceeded with very clear actions and good community engagement and I think that needs to happen before the town teams model can be raised at the implementation stage of any planning process so I think it's a good idea but just a bit premature for conjunction. Brian Stockwell 01:49:47.421
Yes, Sir. Councillor Phillips. Jessica Phillips 01:49:49.741
I just wanted to speak to it as well because I just want to thank Councillor Finzel because I believe in the intent behind it as well but I just can't support it at this point because I feel like it's probably locking us into something. At this point too whereas the original motion gave us exploring but also an end that might end up being the status quo or like it explored those options where but yeah I just want to as ever that I know that the challenge of putting an amendment on the floor at the time so I never want it to be missed to that I commend you for having a go to bring us all together so thanks um. Brian Stockwell 01:50:34.435
Councillor Wegener do you wish to talk? I'll talk. The town teams model is good if we could get a unified vision across residents and the business owners and the land owners. I wonder with starting from a position of conflict over a particular issue whether it would fit. I do think where everyone's in their minds well where I've got to in my mind is we as a set of Councillors need to review our place making priorities and that includes our budget. You know there may be over coming budget time an option to look at some incoming revenue we weren't expected we may be able to increase our investment this financial year but at this stage we're not starting anything new but it may be that during the term of this financial year we do have a look at our placemaking priorities I think it's pretty clear that Noosa Junction as well as Kin Kin and Tewantin would need to be considered in the light of current situation and it may be that we can at taking steps and it may be a suggested step for all three that the town teams model is where you start and then we'll build from there as budget becomes available but this stage I just think it does tend to just continue the investigation in a way that would just still create that staff time Councillor Finzel. Karen Finzel 01:52:08.458
Right thank you just to reiterate I do believe the people can initiate this without lots of Council staff time and resources so I'd like to rebut that firstly. I think that perhaps maybe obviously around the table people don't consider this as an opportunity to actually really Hone in on beneficiary centric leadership that is addressing complex issues during a really challenging know time of growth and I think the pains of change are gonna like be with us for this whole Shire and I'd like to you know think that we can do some bold leadership and meet our people in the middle I think that we need to look at how we understand and engage with our community where there is also a resistance to change but I think that's our challenge on this term to actually go how do we facilitate that how do we give voice to our community that's relevant table how do we address and measure their lived experience which to me is data that can inform these decisions not the one exactly you know before us today but at a broader sense of strategic leadership and how do we want to position ourselves as leaders around this table moving forward and it's going to require discipline change and definitely giving a place at the table voice to our community and I just put this forward today because I thought it's a great stepping stone I'll accept it's unsupported but thank you everyone it was good to bring it to debate when we talk about status quo and change I mean that's our challenge we've invested in strategic plans we've got a community we've engaged we you know we're committed to this we're committed to change know this is the challenge in local government and I've said it in my whole terms it's like you know we're trying to move the titanic it's a big beast and then how do we be really agile and have appetite to be you know bold and step out and you know that's going to be challenging I think lessons term I will support my own emotion if I didn't that's problematic but yeah I won't give up on really honing out a place for our community have relevance through their lived experience to find that balance between the technical issues and the fiduciary requirements environment which we live and make those demands which are challenging that's our first couple of levels of government but I advise I would to bring to the table we add a third level of governance where we really give voice to our people and that's what we're here for that's who we're serving and thank you everybody for your contribution. Brian Stockwell 01:55:17.207
I put the motion the amendment those in favour? Karen Finzel 01:55:21.057
Oh me, yes that's me, thank you. Brian Stockwell 01:55:24.284
Councillor Finzel, those opposed? It is. Councillor Lorentson, Wegener, Phillips, Wilkie, Wilson and Stockwell. We go back to the suspended motion and I believe only Councillor Wilkie has talked to it. Does anyone else wish to talk to the motion? Nicola Wilson 01:55:41.751
I will. Councillor Wilson. This motion doesn't kick the can down the road at all. It means that we can actually start having these conversations prior to when we're already having them. It means that we can talk to anybody who's a relevant stakeholder immediately and start trying to get some ideas to address the situation. Conversely, investigating a bid takes time. Implementing that bid takes time. I'm just going to quickly read a bit of the report again. The timing for this initiative would depend on stakeholder readiness and resource availability. However, a preliminary phase, including engagement and concept testing, could initiated within the next six to twelve months. Budget and resource implications would need to be carefully considered, particularly around staffing, to support coordination, facilitation and planning development. Initial costs may include consultancy support, stakeholder workshops and communications, with funding potentially sourced through existing budget allocations or external grants. All of those things take time. What we have today is something that can actually be done immediately, so I support this motion. Brian Stockwell 01:56:48.142
Others wish to talk? Councillor Wilkie. Amelia Lorentson 01:56:55.906
I won't support the motion in front of us because to me this is exactly what's already happening. We are engaging with relevant Noosa Junction stakeholders. Including residents. We are engaging with OLGR, we are engaging with QPS and it's not working. So to me we lots of words around the table from BALT leadership and these things take but good planning does take time. BALT leadership is pushing to do better. BALT leadership is not supporting status quo. BALT leadership and these leadership looks like respecting the voices that have come to this room and said we want a good night's sleep. The businesses that have come to us and said we want to play live music and we want to employ and we want to run our businesses without worrying about constant complaints. So to me, you know, in front of us it's retaining status quo and it's not going to improve, it's not going to improve the situation. I think we can do better. So I won't support what's in front of us today. Tom Wegener 01:58:22.145
Councillor Wilkie, you want to talk? Going back to the committee meeting, it was clear to me that this report and this recommendation were meant to facilitate the junction. And she said that this, the recommendation here before us, the original recommendation, will make their job easier, make staff's job easier in the junction. And so I'm just sticking to that because that explained then. And so I won't support this because I think this doesn't change the status quo where the original recommendation was supported by staff and would make their job easier. Brian Stockwell 01:58:59.304
Yeah, I think Councillor Phillips was next and then Councillor Finzel. Councillor Phillips, you've got the floor. Jessica Phillips 01:59:07.923
Thank you. At risk of continuing this, I was wondering if I could try an amendment to this motion. Brian Stockwell 01:59:18.684
Yeah, it's always an option available to you, Councillor Phillips. Jessica Phillips 01:59:25.391
Thank you. I was just trying to write some notes so I didn't, um. That's C. See. Through the engagement with. The relevant stakeholders. Oh, I'm just waiting for it to come up on the screen before I spoke. It takes a little while to come up. Yeah, that's OK. Yeah. Brian Stockwell 02:00:07.692
You can continue your proposed amendment. Opposed. Jessica Phillips 02:00:18.241
So, for the engagement with relevant stakeholders. Ah, just trying to think of how to I'm this, sorry. I'm. The future framework. Adopts a proactive future planning model. That's all, I think that needs to end it. Brian Stockwell 02:01:40.800
The Council created a future? Ms. The guidebook shows that the future frame will be adopted doctor for a likely. While. A sentence. Karen Finzel 02:01:50.680
I don't know. Brian Stockwell 02:01:53.790
I'm just trying to end It is your intent that a potential, a future framework be identified the engagement with relevant stakeholders? Is. Jessica Phillips 02:02:11.908
What I'm trying to achieve is shifting. I don't mind that there's an inclusive of the other, that we've included all the stakeholders. What I want to see is that the amendment gives us, when we look back at this, that went through, if that goes through, what I want to see is that something changes. And I think most, I thought there was sort of consensus to some point around the room that all of us can agree there's an issue. Most of what we're doing is reacting, and I'm trying to put an amendment together that I think most of us can agree. There's an issue. Something needs to happen. Gives us a change in the direction to look from a proactive planning model with our engagement rather than looking backwards. I'm probably speaking to it before I've even finished my amendment. Brian Stockwell 02:03:27.541
Is it something along these lines, Councillor Phillips, through the engagement with stakeholders that agreement to a proactive future planning framework to achieve a proactive future planning model be proposed? Jessica Phillips 02:03:46.497
Something that yes and then I can speak to it and if someone wants to make it through. Brian Stockwell 02:03:53.220
The engagement with relevant stakeholders. Thank you. The future frame might be implemented and adopts a future frame. Does that make sense? Frank Wilkie 02:04:10.439
Yeah. Yes. That. Jessica Phillips 02:04:13.889
That gives us a community and Council gives us a. Frank Wilkie 02:04:22.582
Mr chairman, new amendments can be workshopped in the space between this meeting and the Ordinary Meeting? Brian Stockwell 02:04:31.840
Good suggestion. Frank Wilkie 02:04:33.441
Rather than on the fly? Brian Stockwell 02:04:34.583
Yes. So the suggestion from the floor from Councillor Wilkie was that this is something maybe you can talk with staff and refine your words and it'd be moved on Thursday evening. No, we don't have. Thursday evening. I can only do that if this. You can make an amendment, you can draw the. As we're having difficulty as we're having difficulty getting to a point where the amendment actually is something that staff could implement, it's probably better to put it on hold and see if there's something that can be done before Thursday. Okay, I respect that. Okay. So, Councillor Finzel, I think you were the next person wishing to speak. Karen Finzel 02:05:20.475
On the motion. Before us, this one? No. Brian Stockwell 02:05:24.806
No, for the substantive motion. So that lapsed from one to the seconder. Karen Finzel 02:05:33.764
Right, so we're talking about this one. Amelia Lorentson 02:05:44.880
Yeah, I've got nothing to say to that. Brian Stockwell 02:05:47.100
Okay, um--- I'll speak to it. Yes, Councillor Phillips. Jessica Phillips 02:05:52.020
Tough, I'll just speak to it if there was no one next. The reason why I can't support this is truly believe we need to have something we can-- we talk about KPIs, we look at things so we can actually measure the success of decisions we make around the table. And for this one-- I that it won't be able to give me something I can say, I can look back and go, yep, I can-- we said we'd do this and there's an outcome, even though I appreciate that, again-- there's intent, but I still believe it probably just doesn't set me up for clarity around whether we've been successful for that precinct and I think we owe it to them to say we're actually being really clear in what we want to achieve. Amelia Lorentson 02:06:47.037
Can I move an amendment please? Brian Stockwell 02:06:50.657
It's always open to you. Amelia Lorentson 02:06:52.577
Thank you. So see that Council convene a round table discussion with stakeholders including residents. Key stakeholders. Brian Stockwell 02:07:46.621
That's been moved. Do we have a seconder? Amelia Lorentson 02:07:49.604
I'll make this brief. When we talk about what's the next important step and I and speak a lot about I don't want to go back to what we're doing. This to me is a proactive next step and it's a critical important step. I think when we talk about community-led solutions it starts with people face-to talking about issues. I think it's if this motion is going to get supported by the majority we need to support at a minimum this round table discussion with OLGR, with QPS, with the business owners, with the association and most importantly the residents that have spoken directly to us. Is a minimum. This is what will give voice to the people that we represent and it's also impetus or change. Something great will come out of this and I always. Use the analogy five years ago when there was so much conflict in the waters, when the oilers and the stand-up paddlers and the longboarders were all in conflict. We were at wars and we decided not to go through a regulatory route, we decided to go through a community-led route which was getting everyone around a table and talking it out, neighbour to friend to because we are all members and we are all friends so I hope everyone will at a minimum support C which is to convene a roundtable discussion with key stakeholders including residents and to me that included as part of the motion may change the decision of some of us that have already decided against it because that means we are not maintaining the status quo it means that we're taking a first step and an important step. Karen Finzel 02:10:08.378
Question Mr. question I thought there was already discussions going on with all this including residents is that. Amelia Lorentson 02:10:18.568
I can answer that they are but with no one's at the same table their staff from what I've understood, Director Kim Rawlings is they're having hundred conversations with planners investors developers residents that are getting complaints business owners that are in conflict with OLGR they talk with the association they talk with game liquor and gaming but none of these people are talking to each other or around the same table and that was one of the many reasons why in our discussions and conversations after the planning and environment meeting it was made clear by the Director that this was the most effective and efficient way forward exploring precinct management frameworks but the answer is no this doesn't happen at the moment. Frank Wilkie 02:11:17.261
Mr Chair I will be brief um the motion says engage with key stakeholders including residents, QPS, OLGR. OLGR this is what would happen under that framework it's consistent with it so I've no problem with it I'm sorry Councillor Wilson. Nicola Wilson 02:11:34.753
Um I'll speak against it um I think needs to be a purpose to do that the original motion was looking at we all accept that there's a problem with the junction um this item is really about do we need a formal framework to manage the junction I've already asked no the item that you already addressed, how else we can. Deal with that issue without the formal framework um in terms of equity I don't know how we decide who gets their dollars and who gets invited and how many people can sit around a round table and I think it's just superfluous um to ITB. Brian Stockwell 02:12:19.085
Anyone else wish to talk? Karen Finzel 02:12:24.656
Yeah I'll just quickly talk um you know we just had a huge debate when we talked about frameworks how we could get you know a measured voice from all stakeholders including residents. It was voted down. There would have been actual KPIs and data in my opinion through that framework that we could have some measured information to inform our decisions. To convene a round table it's what does that mean? How are we going to measure people's voice? Rightly so, how do we get the right voices at the table? And again, you know, who drives this? I like to see that we see our community, our beneficiaries, the central reason why we're here, I support that, the idea that they drive that forward. I think this doesn't meet. There's sort of no framework that will inform any decisions moving forward and it speaks about inclusion, exclusion. Do we know as stakeholders? Who actually wants to have a voice there? When we talk about status quo, how do we widen out to people that may like to have a voice but currently there's no way for them to have it? I think there's better ways to do it. I think this is, you know, trying to address issues on the hop. I won't be supporting this motion. I think there's better ways that we can actually engage for meaningful conversation that, you know, doesn't sort of give this idea of tokenism and ticking a box. I think we want to talk about meaningful engagement and how we measure that to make that data informed that comes to us to really inform our decisions and underpin where we want to head and making sure that our community and our residents, that the work they put in is actually valued through the data collection. And giving real voice to their lived experience. Brian Stockwell 02:14:17.732
Councillor Wegener. Tom Wegener 02:14:20.781
I'm looking at what Council is doing on a very on a very wide scale here and we have the Destination Management Plan we're going into a different mode of Council. We're going into 5.0 where we really actually have to communicate and get out there on the offensive no longer in the trenches and the defensive with the hard hats on and that's going to be dealing with the stakeholders across the board and I'm putting my rose-coloured glasses on firmly now because am completely in support of Council being proactive doing the Destination Management Plan look looking at the junction and actually standing in and saying let's have a roundtable let's have a chat about this might not go anywhere small little thing but it's going there because we know that staff want it and that to me that carries a lot of weight if Kim Rawlings is behind it staff find it that actually carries a lot of weight this is a good middle ground between with the recommendation and what the Mayor suggested so you guys could put some rose-coloured glasses on think positive and let's see if we can kind of calm the nerves of the junction because it's a changing place they need to talk to each other we need to talk to each other because it is changing radically. Right now. Larry Sengstock 02:15:43.414
Cheers, skyler. Jessica Phillips 02:15:44.674
Cheers. Yes there's probably not much else I can say because Tom kind of summarised exactly similar to what I wanted to say so I'll just um yeah I think we're in a different stage where we have to probably shift to this really um bring community in earlier um so if this gives us um that one you know a type of um a discussion at the beginning that can give us an idea of where to go then and any opportunity that I think come in earlier um maybe that will save us in the long run from um maybe jumping into something that community don't actually want and then we only find out once we're already too far down the track so um I believe it's different to maybe what um Councillor Finzel's put up even though I think the intent's probably similar I think it's just a step forward to give us um to actually start moving in a direction that maybe we can find a middle ground for everyone it's so I'll all support it if that didn't come out statement. Brian Stockwell 02:16:53.338
Okay um I'm there we I'm the only one haven't spoken um I agree with both sides uh in that it is a mechanism one step to engaging the stakeholders in item b um I think some are interpreting it as a single round table which is I think a reasonable way to start that process others may see it as a ongoing round table which then is suggesting a framework which is probably not what is required um I'm happy with a single round table but I think the existing motion coverage I won't support it but I'm happy for that to be the starting point put up Councillor Lorentson. Amelia Lorentson 02:17:40.260
Um I'll close because I do think everyone may be overthinking this is not a complicated process in fact it's already happened so I have sat with businesses with the University of the Sunshine Coast with our Director Kim Rawlings the Noosa Junction Association and we were all talking about the next step was to invite residents to come and join the meeting it was possibly one of the most proactive wonderful meeting it was wonderfully chaired by Dr Lenny Vance from the University of the Sunshine Coast. Is like I said written to me this morning that he wants to be involved in this process I think we overthink and overcomplicate things this is not maintaining the status quo getting people and community to sit side by with each other is one step small step but big step forward we need to do something cancer so I hope everyone reconsiders the vote and supports this because doing something is really really better than doing nothing so hope everyone supports see it's an important first step and see what happens. Brian Stockwell 02:19:15.128
I'll put the motion, those in favour is Councillor Lorentson and Wegener-Phillips, Wilkie, those opposed, Councillor Finzel, Wilson and Stockwell. The amendments carry, it becomes part of the motion and I'm the only one who hasn't spoken but I think enough words have been said, so I shall pass back to Councillor Wilkie to close. Frank Wilkie 02:19:39.346
You Councillors and I think collectively we've arrived at a motion that allows Council to engage proactively and strategically with all the stakeholders including the residents, QPS, office of liquor and gaming, police to future proof this precinct rather than Noosa lock the junction into any one management model. The discussions can now proactively and collaboratively have regard to all relevant principles in all the models that came through the report. It's work that was well worth doing. Nothing is wasted. And allowed allows the junction traders association and the residents to help set the future course according to their unique needs. This is not status quo. The Noosa Junction is not the same place as it was last week. Change is relentless. Nothing is status quo. And in terms of measuring success, the Noosa Junction Association will set their own KPIs. The Council, as to how they are progressing. Thank you, Councillors. I think we've arrived at a great outcome. Brian Stockwell 02:20:45.216
I put the motion. Those in favour? Yes. That's unanimous. Councillors, it will surprise you to know that we've been going for over two hours and twenty minutes. So we have a fifteen minute break. Frank Wilkie 02:20:59.298
Mr Shannon. Jessica Phillips 02:36:52.468
Yeah all right. Brian Stockwell 02:36:59.886
Okay, welcome back, Councillors. We move on to the item of the Financial Performance Report and welcome the Director and the manager to the table. And I presume the manager of finance, Pauline Coles, will be giving us an overview of the report. Welcome. Pauline Coles 02:37:13.245
Good afternoon, Councillors. So the Financial Performance Report for June 2025 shows the interim position at year end. However, Councillors should note that financial adjustments are still progressing as part of the end of the financial year. Process. A further report on Council's final 2024-25 financial performance will be provided to Council in November 2025, following the finalisation and independent audit of the financial statements in October. Operating revenue for the year is 1.8 million. Dollars above budget, which is being driven by interest income of 2.8 million dollars, sales of goods and services of 538 thousand dollars, and other revenue of 652 thousand dollars. This has been offset by lower than forecast revenue from rates of 267 thousand dollars, Fees and Charges of 1.4 million, lease income of 449,000. Thousand dollars, and operating grants. In respect to operating grants, it should be noted that Council did receive a 50% prepayment of its 2026 financial assistance grant in June 2025. Operating expenditures: $5.4 million underspent, with $931,000 of this underspend relating to employee costs. An estimate of the back pay payable in respect to Council's in principle certified agreement offer has been accrued in these numbers. However, these results are still subject to again to year end adjustments and the finalisation of employee provisioning calculations and accruals. Materials and services expenditure is under budget $3.6 million which relates to.4 relates to levy funded programs, 900,000 relating to grant funded programs, 200,000 relating to commercial operations for waste and holiday parks and $1 million relating to general operations. Will everyone levy and grant funded underspend will be held in reserve for future utilisation in delivering those associated programs. A detailed breakdown of the materials and services spent has been provided in attachment 4 to the report. Tourism and economic development expenditure is currently shown below target. The quarterly legal cost summary shows legal and associated costs $126,000 over budget with the majority of this relating to development appeals. Also included is the quarterly consultancy expenditure summary which shows consultancy costs $194,000 over the full year budget. Some of this overspend is due to timing as well as project budgets being loaded against contract services rather than consultancy expense. It should be noted that these summaries only include operational consultancy costs and not consultancy costs relating to capital projects. Overall Council's interim operating position at June 2025 is a surplus of $7.3 million with the main drivers of this being drivers of this being additional interest revenue, waste and holiday park surplus operating positions, employee cost timings and the timing of material service expenditure on GLAAR and levy funded programs. As further approvals and provisions and accounting adjustments will continue to be made over the coming months as the financial position for FY 24-25 is finalised. Excluding disaster projects Council has expended 59% of its full year base capital program which equates to $27.3 million of the full year $46 million capital program with a total of $48.5 million spent on curating. Funded disaster projects. Council's cash holdings at the end of June was $107.9 million with the $25.8 million of these funds invested in high-yielding term deposits. This month's report also includes a quarterly dissection of Council's cash holding, which shows $49.2 million in restricted funds, $15.2 million relating to capital projects which we've carried over from prior years, as well as current years that are still to be delivered. $29 million equivalent to a three-month cash cover, which is a requirement to ensure Council can meet its financial sustainability requirements, $7.7 million in working capital to pay for operations through to the next rating cycle run, and $6.9 million cash in which cash is about which is available to fund emergent or new capital works. Our rule Council has finished the financial year positively and is showing a surplus position. Brian Stockwell 02:41:45.161
Do we have questions? Or can we go straight to moving the motion? No. Councillor Wilkie. Frank Wilkie 02:41:51.709
In the statement of financial position under non-current assets, property, plant and equipment value has increased from one. 1.23 billion at the end of '24 to 1.38 billion, which is an increase of 153 million. Could you explain what we've invested in to account for that increase in value as assets under that category? Pauline Coles 02:42:21.367
Sure. So just to clarify, so at the end of financial year 2024, it was $1.2 billion. It's actually currently $1.28 billion. The forecast was 1.3, nearly 1.4, and that related to the QRA disaster program and the timing of that. The original forecast that we saw. In terms of the delivery of that, still ongoing. However, some of those forecasts are lower in terms of the actual spread required for those projects than we were actually, what we're seeing, essentially. Frank Wilkie 02:42:51.378
So the investment in the roads and infrastructure, that's accounted for under property. Of land. And roads. Yes, roads, bridges. So the investment in the roads is, yeah. Thank you. So it's all assets other assets, is that? Correct, that is correct. Are there any substantial purchases of plant and equipment that account for that increase? Pauline Coles 02:43:17.371
There's circa, I think, we've spent about, yeah, about $4 million has been, I think we've actually expended in this year about nearly $3 million. Brian Stockwell 02:43:29.517
Thank you. Just a question to follow on. So, as assets depreciate the value goes down, as we do upgrades and we do renewals, it goes back up. So, when we say it's overall increasing, that means it's not just a point eight billion, you know, 800,000 or whatever, it's actually a lot more that work has been done to get to that net positive figure, is that right? Correct. Council should also note we also undertake regular revaluations to ensure their assets are maintained at fair value so that we can replace them, and that we're essentially generating sufficient cash so that we can renew our assets and maintain those for the community. Thank you. Amelia Lorentson 02:44:13.433
Thank you, Councillor ferry revenue seems that it's quite below budget, like $432,000, so I sort of want to unpack that and kind of sort of understand why the revenue's down and how the new operators are performing. Pauline Coles 02:44:34.001
I can, I can't speak to the operators. Richard MacGillivray 02:44:36.043
I do. I'm happy to take all those questions through the Chair. There has been an overall reduction in theory numbers, almost to the, we're just doing the final tally of the year, of about 20% less than the previous year, so there has been an overall reduction. Largely as a result. Of syco and Alfred. You'll be aware in March we had a substantial impact with a theory that was actually not operating for an extended period of time, and that's sort of followed through to the following months. We haven't had the numbers coming overall of year there's been significant reduction from passengers heading across the previous year. Amelia Lorentson 02:45:18.865
Can I request, and I know that it's getting late in the day, but can I request a discussion or a report perhaps? Or a report perhaps? Yes. Come back to Council. I'd really love to understand community sentiment around the new ferry operators and how they're going. That would that'd be great, thank you. Another question Councillor? Another question here. Similar question in terms of local laws revenue. Again, significantly below budget. $418,300 below budget. I'm linking this with perhaps because of industrial yeah, yes, so it largely would have been due to protected action that was occurring as well as you would have seen that in some of our other areas like the natural areas as well. Some of the more outdoors areas in terms of either delivery of those revenue generating items or delivery of the expenditure and impact maintenance. And in terms of, you know, the new processes again in collecting infringements, our camera cars. Car. Sorry, camera car. So again, probably a discussion or workshop or report again may be coming back to Council. I would love to understand the effectiveness, if that's equated to more infringements, less infringements, the pros and cons of using technology. That would be great. Thank you. Another question, and I'll make this brief. Tourism Noosa agreement. And maybe a question to the CEO. When can we expect to see the final agreement with Tourism Noosa, including the new KPIs? And can we an idea or an update on the Roadmap? Brian Stockwell 02:47:09.075
So we're dealing with a report on finances. Yep. That's a separate item. It's not relevant. Larry Sengstock 02:47:15.001
Yeah. I might be able to talk to you about it offline if you like. No worries. Amelia Lorentson 02:47:18.175
I appreciate that. Okay. I've got a whole bunch of questions, but I'll just. I think everything else I can take offline. Thank you very much, guys. Brian Stockwell 02:47:34.528
Any other questions? I'd like to move the staff recommendation. Councillor Wilson. Thank you. Councillor Phillips second, Councillor Wilson. Anyone else wish to speak to the motion? Do you want to argue with yourself in the close? Okay, I put the motion. Those in favour? That's unanimous. Thank you. We move on to- thank you. We to the next very quick. Thank you. Have the next item, which is the operational plan 2526. Larry Sengstock 02:48:18.323
Is that what you're talking to? Yes, I am talking to that. Thank you, Mr Chair. The executive officer is on leave this week, so I'll speak to it. And I'll just go through the executive summary initially and then give a couple more points. The Local Government Regulation 2012 section 174 requires that the local government prepare and adopt an annual operational report or plan, sorry, for each financial year consistent with its annual budget and to progress the implementation of the five-year Corporate Plan. The draft Noosa Council operational plan 2536 is structured to align with the five themes of the Council's Corporate Plan 2328 and identifies the significant initiatives and key operational services that will support the delivery of the strategic objectives. The operational plan has been developed in parallel with the annual budget with careful consideration of Council's long-term financial sustainability policy and objectives, the organisation's delivery capacity, established service standards and community expectations. Just some key points. There are 98 initiatives on this website. Thank you last year there were 107, so we've dropped a few, but this is in keeping with our plan to deliver what we've started, but it's also the operational plan, whilst it's an annual plan, it relates to the five-year Corporate Plan, so there are some things that carry through, a number of things that carry through over more than just one year, so so it's still an ambitious undertaking. And there are two new policies or plans or strategies: integrated water catchment management plan for Burgess Creek, including in response to the secured funding, and the event strategy included as part of the ongoing review of arrangements tourism with Noosa are the two key new ones. This was only in the past done at the same time as the budget was delivered, but what we've done this year is because we wanted to make sure that the budget was delivered. If there were any changes to the budget before we presented this, so the budget was two weeks ago as we know, and this operation plan relates strictly to the budget for the year of things that we can deliver. We can deliver. I'm just the other piece to understand is that we have the Corporate Plan as our overarching framework and parameters that we work through for the five years as an approved plan. Underneath that is our annual operational plan and underneath that is the branch plans which relate to the operational plan. So there may be some things in this operational plan that people look at and go hang on what about and they generally will get picked up in the branch plan as opposed to the operational plan. So I put this to you as a, and we have some of the directors here as well if there's anything that you wanted to discuss or ask questions about but I put it to you as a recommended for acceptance. Brian Stockwell 02:51:18.311
Thank you. Do we have any questions Councillors? Shaun Walsh 02:51:21.763
Councillor Lorentson? I just know there's a note on the screen that's shut down. That's right. I hope you've got that. Thanks. Amelia Lorentson 02:51:31.836
Thank you. In terms of the performance measures, I'm imagining there's more specific details than that just provided in the report, or are performance measures as stated that, for example, the ecosystem health of wetlands and riparian areas is improved, populations are key threat, and indicator Flora and fauna species remain viable. They seem really good. Yes. So, I'm imagining underneath this, there's another layer, more specific KPIs? Larry Sengstock 02:52:06.658
Yes. So, we report to you on a quarterly basis with those, and then on an annual basis for the whole, as well. So, there's a quarterly and then an annual report against this, and it comes in the form of comments, as opposed to just Dicks, you know, red, yellow and green. So, we give more information as it goes through, each quarter, and you've got the opportunity then to question the advancement, if it's on track, if it's delayed. The reasons why. Amelia Lorentson 02:52:35.879
And my other question, and I've got a lot more, but I'm only going to ask two. Corporate performance measures versus community performance measures. So, do we capture both in this planning, or are they two separate documents? And if they are, can we look at, you know, down the track, just sort of capture lived experience? So, yep, we've maintained our parks, but does that equal community being satisfied with parks? They're accessible, clean, maintained to a level that's suitable for them? Larry Sengstock 02:53:10.799
Hmm, I guess that's done through Community Satisfaction Survey, which we do. And we've just undertaken that, so those results are being analysed as we speak. But also I guess know, we're not a huge Shire, so we're out and about, and we do hear and we see, and we get plenty of feedback. No question of that. So we understand exactly where we, you know, I think where but we're lacking, where we're not. Also but yeah, we operate against our service levels. There are agreed service levels as long as you meet those levels, and that's what we've proposed, that's what we've agreed, and that's what we're aiming to deliver against. Amelia Lorentson 02:53:53.058
Does that answer your question? It does. Is there opportunity for the two measures to be captured at the same time? Larry Sengstock 02:54:01.989
Well, I guess that comes to. It's difficult to do because, you know, to do a survey you do it once a year, once every two or three years sometimes. And to capture all that information, because this is very broad, it just shows the extent to what we do as an organisation. To try to capture all of those and get feedback on all of those would be extremely difficult. I think what we this and I think this is something that Councillors have mentioned before, is to look at it from an outcome point of view, what is the outcome that we've achieved, rather than just the fact that we've nearly okayed the eyes and we've picked up the bins at certain times over the course of a week or a month or a year. But what's the outcome of that is that we have a clean. Shire. So I get what you're saying there, so maybe we can look at that. I'm going to take. Amelia Lorentson 02:54:56.281
A little bit more of a twist though, Larry. So not we've got a clean and healthy Shire, but have we made life better and safer and more inclusive for the people that are paying rates to maintain those premises. So mine is more capturing how residents feel about the services. Larry Sengstock 02:55:16.010
It is our liveability, but I guess that's a bit of a tricky one and an intangible web to go in- A tricky one and an entanglement impact with doge, because not everybody's going you know. To be satisfied, because their expectations are different. Caring isn't going to help. Brian Stockwell 02:55:31.661
Kerry, caring if you've got a response to that. Kerri Contini 02:55:36.800
Hello, I just thought I yes, would add to so at the moment, Councillors, the way that we're measuring, I guess not so much community performance, but community perspective on their communities is through both our liveability survey and our Community Satisfaction Survey. Which. Once rolled out, it will be alternate years, so we should be getting survey data each year on our community's perspective. Brian Stockwell 02:56:08.935
Thank you. Councillor Finzel. Karen Finzel 02:56:11.476
Following on from that, and I've raised it on several occasions around, that's all good, the social aspect of it, I'm interested in the economic impacts given with the increased weather events. It's come up before. How do you envisage moving forward that we're going to be more efficient in the economic impacts of these increased weather events which take our staff away from maintaining parks and gardens and moving them to working in other spaces? That need immediate attention and balancing books given the increase. Larry Sengstock 02:56:44.658
They the all weather events oh yeah go I've got to say I think we do a pretty good job of it already, to be honest, because it's difficult and you don't know when they're going to so I can't have a whole team of people sitting there with a lot of time on their hands ready and waiting for a for an impact um or a disaster so we have to deal with it as we can and I think we do a good job we're lucky that we're funded well and we've got a great relationship. With QRA and the Federal government um in terms of funding these exercises or these recoveries um so you know I think it's one of those ones where you've just got to you've got to plan for it but you hope it doesn't happen and then you know if it does happen you've got to then deal with it. Brian Stockwell 02:57:25.283
And I think we do a very good job of that currently so just to clarify generally um our staff working in immediate post disaster recovery well even before the recovery stage that is something we claim so that would have it we'd have the economic impact of that um but we probably don't do overtly is to say well this program is this far behind because of that and that might be something we look at is what was because having disasters is going to become more the business as usual so measuring the impact on delayed achievement of other might be something we think about in the future yeah. Shaun Walsh 02:58:09.839
To the Chair I could also note that um for instance after the weather event in late March we didn't have the capacity to do the reactive grading program so it was contracting so I think we've learned a lot from the 20 22 event so that now there's a thought process well do we have capacity to actually respond um because the funding applies to us whether we've contracted out internally um and you know it was a good assessment process to determine no we don't have the capacity to do immediate grading program resources so it was contracted out so and I also know that some of our core service deliverables such as mowing and cleaning toilets is already contracted out and that provides us with tremendous scope to you know really deliver upon community expectations um you know outside of staff and reaction to various things. Brian Stockwell 02:58:58.994
Okay other questions yes so we know. Tom Wegener 02:59:02.479
So on the other the flip side is being looking forward and having plans ready to go but when uh funding comes you take that out say you're ready you know kind of that proactive thinking is that sort of the opposite side of the operational plan which is you know that forward thinking looking down the track of projects that may or not happen with funding appropriation or with other things. Larry Sengstock 02:59:25.183
Well I think again that's probably what Sean was alluding to just then is that we've just come off the back of the Black Mountain or that floods of 22 and we're lucky with the cyclone but a couple weeks after that when we got the flooding event then we were able to activate our external providers very very quickly have that in place and through the you know through the process that we put forward here able to get that those contractors up and running quicker than you'd ordinarily because you know we didn't have to go through all the hoops we had them on our books basically so we had them ready to go and we're able to now deliver another 20 odd million dollars worth of activity very quickly so yeah we propose we're planning that and we've now got a good relationship with these external groups can we activate as needed. I think that's a good thing that to also to support what Shaun was just saying is the good thing with the QRA is that you know when we do go out outsource it it's not you know what we would normally do as a small Council what we would do is try to use our own resource our own people to deliver stuff but if we know we've got funding from external then we can't afford to go and engage contractors to deliver and help us. Tom Wegener 03:00:46.586
That's right there's a target date or a deadline. Larry Sengstock 03:00:50.511
Yeah there is but it's also you know so it's a big no money so if we had to go our and be 20 million dollars worth of work ourselves with our people that's 20 million dollars that we have to redirect our staff to deliver and then they can't do the stuff that they normally do. Okay. Brian Stockwell 03:01:08.031
Moved by Councillor Wilkie, seconded by Councillor Wegener. Councillor Wilkie. Frank Wilkie 03:01:13.083
Thank you. I've written a few notes on this because it's an important document. The Noosa Council operational plan is the councillor-endorsed blueprint of how Noosa Council directs its resources over the financial year. It identifies the key projects aligned with the Corporate Plan which itself is approved by Councillors after community consultation. Council staff implement these actions under delegation and the document sets the parameters for the recommendations staff bring meetings for further Council endorsement. The operational plan also progresses councillor-endorsed strategies and plans including the Environment Strategy, Housing Strategy, social strategy, Transport Strategy, and the Noosa Plan 2020, all of which were drafted taking on board community input after extensive consultation. The operational plan outlines last year's initiatives and projects that will continue into this financial year and the proposed capital works program. The CEO will report on progress of the 98 operational plan initiatives quarterly where Councillors and the community get a snapshot of the immense workload this small Council delivers upon and how each action is progressing. Key performance indicators are reported to Council by the CEO on the quarterly basis. The CEO also reports annually on the progress of the Corporate Plan. There are also periodic subject matter reports to Council providing in depth reviews on specific subjects. Other regular reports are provided such as the monthly financial performance reports which show how Council is tracking according to budget. Any changes in funding allocations are reported to Council as part of review process which occurs several times a year. Progress on the delivery of the capital works program is reported to Council quarterly. To strengthen oversight and management, Council has also established a Capital Works Executive which Councillor Lorentson chairs and Councillor Wilson and I are also members. Valued at $51 million. It highlights that this year's capital works program focusing on core services and community services is the Doonella Bridge renewal at Tewantin, the Shire-wide road reseal program, the Shire-wide upgrades program, Shire-wide gravel road re-sheeting, upgrades to the Noosa Aquatic Centre, Shire-wide Noosa Trail network upgrades, affordable and social housing project site preparation and subdivision at Cooroy, the Noosa coastal pathway cycle street at bridging, the Shire-wide wayfinding signage project, exterior refurbishment of The J, expansion of the sports complex at Cooroy, Shire-wide park furniture and shelter renewals, of Pioneer Park playground at Cooran, stamford top of park amenities at Pomona, Moorindil Street amenities block renewal at Tewantin, and the Main Beach seawall renewal design at Noosa Heads. Under the theme of environment, we will continue to monitor and improve the health of waterways and natural areas in the Shire, implement the Noosaville Foreshore infrastructure master plan, requiring grant funding of up to $10 million. Implement the eastern beaches foreshore reserves management plans with public education to the fore and the Shire-wide encroachment policy. Complete the Noosa River catchment action plan within the Resilient Rivers Initiative framework. Ensure or Council capital civil and maintenance works are delivered in accordance with best environmental practice and one of the key measurable outcomes under the environment is that by 2028 48% of all the land in Noosa is managed for its environmental values. Under the theme of liveability we will continue to implement the Noosa Housing Strategy with a focus on partnering state and community housing providers and industry to deliver affordable housing, investigate the feasibility of affordable housing over Council owned car parks, continue to implement and monitor Queensland's first and only short stay letting local law to manage the impacts of short stay letting and manage illegal camping. Progress design development of the Beckmans Road duplication in collaboration with the State government. Undertake investigations into the Cooroy and Shire transit hubs to improve public transport in the Shire for residents and visitors complete investigations into the Noosa Woods jetty as a potential ferry stop location as a means of improving public transport. And to take undertake stage implementation of master plans for the Cooroy and Noosa district sports complexes to improve sport and recreation. Facilities and increase participation in sports. Continue planning for the future of the Noosa Leisure Centre and Noosa Aquatic Centre to ensure the community needs are met and increase the amount of social and affordable housing in Noosa. That is immeasurable. Progress on these will be measured through community Liveability Survey rates, through the Liveability Survey. Under the theme of prosperity, we will progress the Noosaville resource recovery area waste master plan as funding becomes available for new waste diversion facilities and innovative waste practices. Such as composting and biochar, Tom. We will audit Council owned land passes such as garra street, Cooroy and progress planning of a circular economy precinct as part of the renewal energy hub at the Noosa waste and resource recovery centre. Complete stage four of the proposed new. Regional art gallery including investigating funding options. Under the theme of future, we will continue to engage with our Traditional Custodians and ensure cultural heritage and indigenous values are incorporated into key projects. Complete the Destination Management Plan and begin delivering key actions, programs and partnerships. We will review and manage the Tourism Noosa partnership agreement to align with the Destination Management Plan. We will work with local service providers to support Noosa's youth. Trial a new pilot community engagement panel, which have already been in the process of being convened, to further enhance our community engagement processes. We'll deliver disaster preparedness, resilience and recovery activities to support the broader community. We'll progress the development of a program of revenue diversification and a strategic investment approach for alternative funding streams for Council to reduce our reliance on rates revenue. We'll increase Council and community awareness. And preparedness for climate change and extreme weather events. The theme of excellence we will implement a customer experience program. Are you happy for Councillor Wilkie to continue? Yes. I'm near the end. To improve responses to improve responses to customer requests. We'll continue to drive emissions reductions and cost savings for Council through implementation of the emissions reduction program including solar batteries, lighting upgrades, energy waste, fleet monitoring, electrification and fleet transition as well as advancing the large-scale solar feasibility study at the Noosa waste and resource recovery centre. Progress investigations into solutions for staff workplace accommodation. This will be measured against increased level of community satisfaction with Council services compared to previous survey results in the Community Satisfaction Survey. This was just a small snapshot of the community and Council endorsed actions that are planned to be funded and delivered by the 2025-26 budget. I commend the staff of the budget. I commend the staff-working hard Council who will be implementing it and the Councillors who have improved it. Thank you. Brian Stockwell 03:08:35.468
Other Councillors? Is there anything you missed? Probably. That's a lot of them. Amelia Lorentson 03:08:43.261
I also want to acknowledge and thank the staff for their diligence in preparing this year's operational plan and not just their diligence for the work that they undertake in delivering the plan. It reflects a significant body of work and a deep commitment to delivering to our community. I'm going to sort of just talk a little bit about the questions that I asked the CEO and what I would like to see in the future. And it's something I hope we can further discuss. And that's how we can continue to elevate accountability. Not just as a procedural step, or as a corporate performance measure, but as a lived principle embedded in everything we do. We have robust performance measures Councillor May we've got our community satisfaction and our liveability surveys, and they offer meaningful insights, yet there's an opportunity here still to ask whether those measures fully reflect our community's experiences and priorities. I will we truly capturing how residents feel about the services and infrastructure that we deliver? Can we measure satisfaction, inclusion and trust, not just through inputs and completion rates? And are our most vulnerable voices being heard in how we define success? As we move forward, I'd like to explore and discuss the development of maybe something like a community-facing performance tool, a dashboard that combines and reflects our community survey, our KPIs, and reflects lived experience, not just internal efficiencies. Something that have we made life better? Have we made life safer? And have we made life fairer for the people of Noosa? And most importantly, do our current priorities align with our community's priorities? And simply, have we got it right? So I hope we can discuss and work on this together. Thank you to the staff. Brian Stockwell 03:10:54.308
Who's wish to talk? Council Wilkie, you wish to close thank you, Mr Chair. Frank Wilkie 03:11:04.114
Look, of course, the Council operates on the principle of continuous improvement, and one of those is the convening of the deliberative community engagement panel, which reflects the demographic profile of Noosa. We'll be asked specific questions. Some of the plans as we go forward. It's a way of reaching elements of the demographic that we don't normally get, traditionally attract, where we just rely on your, say, surveys or pop-ups. So that's an example of how we're continually trying to improve. The reach of the community. And things about safe. Are we living in a safe, inclusive and connected community, which are core principles for many of the plans, they're reflected in the liveability surveys and the questions that are asked in that. So we'll be. Looking with interest to the results of those surveys, Mr. Mayor. Yes, I know all Councillors are very interested in them. Brian Stockwell 03:11:56.996
Okay, I put the motion. Those in favour? Councillor Phillips? Yes. That's unanimous. We now move on to the third item in this section of the agenda, which is the 2025 LGAQ conference motions and attendance. Larry Sengstock 03:12:16.972
Mr. Mayor. Yes. Okay, so LGAQ. And at the forum, councils are at liberty to raise notices of motion to be then debated and or voted on the floor. To take forward through to the bodies that they're guided towards and generally the State government. What we've provided here is four LGAQ motions and what we need to know is to get the endorsement of Council on each of those four so I think we can work through each one of those separately and then get the endorsement on all on the ones that accepted which we will then take forward to the LGAQ annual conference. Brian Stockwell 03:13:15.218
Thank you. Nicola Wilson 03:13:16.698
Questions? I have a question. Some might be a we've actually got approved the Mayor and to Council and to attend the conference under mandatory funding. We haven't actually had a conversation about that yet. So what's the process to actually determine who, if it's today or Monday, to discuss that or to decide on that? Brian Stockwell 03:13:41.173
So, okay. You're asking the CEO? Larry Sengstock 03:13:45.807
Generally, it's he's. It's associated with who takes the. Which motions go through, because the people who put those up tend to be the delegates, the bargaining delegates at the time. But I think that's something. Pardon? It's not policy. It's the process, though. It's been. Policy? All I'm saying is. Anyway, I think this is something that we can discuss after this meeting. Sure. No, fine. That's all right. Nicola Wilson 03:14:17.913
Thank you. Frank Wilkie 03:14:22.272
I'd like to suggest that we won't make a decision on that aspect today. We'll have a discussion between the two meetings, and by the Ordinary Meeting on Thursday night, we'll have arrived at some delegates. Okay. Yeah. Have a good day. Amelia Lorentson 03:14:35.252
And I'll note also in the spirit of equity, I agree with Councillor Wilson, and I'm happy to step away from this, the mandatory spending at least. Thank you. Frank Wilkie 03:14:47.666
Can I move a motion? You can. Yeah. It's fine. So basically, it's the motion as, the recommendation as provided. I won't get this to be all on screen. Go back to the start of that please, Pat. Could you change that to three motions instead of four motions? In A, the following three motions. Yep. So the first motion being investment in youth responsive preventative and early intervention programs. Motion, proposed motion to increase state government investment and community dispute resolution. And motion three being trial of non-lethal shower mitigation measures during migration season with the exemption of lobbying the Federal government for urgent action on plastic pollution. Moved. Brian Stockwell 03:16:01.145
Would you like me to take out item B as well for now? Item B was about the conference representatives. Frank Wilkie 03:16:10.685
A procedural question to them to the CEO. If we can leave that blank or just we can remove it? Just remove it. Clean it to remove it. Just put it to remove it. Okay, clean it to remove it. Thank you, good suggestion. Brian Stockwell 03:16:29.197
Do we have a seconder? Councillor Wegener is second. Frank Wilkie 03:16:37.110
Thank you, Councillors, all these motions, I thank all Councillors who've worked on putting these motions together and the attendance of all Councillors in refining them during workshops. The reason why number the national plastics plan motion, draft motion, I've omitted that because it's a very roundabout way of getting action on something that's happening already. The national plastics plan been in place for five or six years and the motion that was there calls, would have required us to go to the local government association conference, get endorsement from the floor that required the local government association to then lobby the State government, to then lobby the Federal government to accelerate implementation of the national plastics plan Roadmap. It's a very roundabout way to get something to happen. I spoke to the president of the LGAQ yesterday who said that he already sits on the national environmental ministerial Council where these issues are raised and all Noosa Council would need to do is write a letter to the LGAQ policy executive and they'd be progressing that. At the national level so this is all about effective advocacy getting results in the quickest way and most effective way possible and that's through writing directly to the LGAQ and they can effect this change accelerate something that's happening already at a Federal level without going through the process of having a delegation argued on the floor get the floor to endorse the LGAQ to lobby the State government to lobby the Federal government the LGAQ can go straight to the feds and get the response the other sticking point is the involvement in that the Queensland government in that chain of advocacy proposed chain of advocacy because under the national plastics plan Roadmap it mentions that at the 10th of December 2024 environmental ministers meeting all ministers except Queensland, except the new Queensland minister agreed to basically endorse this national Roadmap and work together on it and have coordinated and consistent actions so we don't even know if the Queensland government will be on with the national road the new Queensland government is on board with the national Roadmap so I'm proposing that we leave that out as far as a motion because there's over a hundred motions that go to the LGAQ conference we write directly the LGAQ president who's agreed to raise it at the national environmental ministerial Council and raise it the next policy executive without having to go through the rigmarole of having on the floor it's about effective advocacy effective use of resources and getting things done you know the most efficient way and as we said the national plastics plan is happening and national level already, and if we're just going to be effective it is just to ask them to accelerate action on it that can be done by other means it's not like we're asking them to introduce a new policy which would require more resources resourcing it's just asking the LGAQ to make sure that this policy is pushed along at a Federal level otherwise and motion 3 I support the inclusion of that because it's consistent with and is a good complement to a motion, a Mayoral minute I'm hoping I can get Councillors support for on Thursday night where we put forward Noosa Shire as a potential trial. I ask that Noosa Shire be considered as a potential trial area. Non-lethal evidence-based shark mitigation strategies as recommended in the KPMG report on the Shark Control Program and that is always linked with education and community consultation so it's a compliment to that this actually asks will test whether other coastal councils have appetite for that sort of thing as well so it's worth taking to the local government conference to see if there is appetite amongst other coastal communities which could send a message to the State to the State government about how ready or otherwise the other coastal communities are in regards to removal of shark nets during whale migration seasons and the trial of these alternative technologies. Brian Stockwell 03:21:18.653
Thank you, Councillors. Karen Finzel 03:21:21.356
I just have a question. I would have liked to have seen this sort of debated. I'm wondering why you didn't let us do that because having been someone that's attended a number of these I find a really important element is actually the debate on the floor because it actually you can learn from what other councils bring to the debate and things like that so. Frank Wilkie 03:21:43.049
Is this a question to me Councillor? Karen Finzel 03:21:44.371
Yes it is. So I'm wondering why just didn't allow us to proceed before and I said opportunity to discuss it further around the table before you just removed it. Frank Wilkie 03:21:53.946
Well this is a perfect opportunity to discuss it. This is why I've drawn attention to it. To our workshops. Wasn't one of those ones that we came to our workshops. It was added later. So this is our first opportunity to actually debate it in an open session. Amelia Lorentson 03:22:08.557
Through the Chair, that's actually not correct. The motion was circulated some time ago and we didn't have time at Council discussion forum to discuss it. Frank Wilkie 03:22:18.840
Yeah, that's the point I'm making. Amelia Lorentson 03:22:20.382
And it was circulated early and went through due process, reviewed by Council officers and the CEO and was approved. Frank Wilkie 03:22:27.690
To be employed in the recommendation. Thank you. I'm answering the question of Councillor Finzel. We had two workshops answering set aside Councillor to discuss set aside to these. I'm answering discuss these proposed motions. This was circulated via email. So I know Councillors didn't. Compared to what we can do in a Councillor workshop, looking at a motion via email is not ideal. And so we have haven't had a full opportunity to test the robustness of it. And when I looked into it in my own time, I discovered that the LGAQ president said we don't need a motion for that sort of issue because. Got access at the Federal level already on these sort of things at the environmental ministerial Council. Amelia Lorentson 03:23:12.762
Can I ask a question to the Mayor? Yes. You returned from your holiday today. Yep. When did you call the LGAQ president and ask this question? Frank Wilkie 03:23:25.885
I had contact with him yesterday afternoon. Amelia Lorentson 03:23:27.888
Yesterday afternoon, specifically on that motion? Yes. And can I ask why? Frank Wilkie 03:23:34.536
Because it's my job to apply a bit of rigour to all these draft motions about which ones will stand up, which ones are necessary, which ones are in good use of our time, which ones. What is the most effective advocacy for each one? Amelia Lorentson 03:23:51.205
And. Through the Chair, can I ask a question to the CEO? My understanding and having gone to five years in a row every LGAQ conference, every LGAQ conference, I've also submitted motions for five years in a row, twice a year, on issues that are important to this community. I had just recently one of the motions knocked back by the LGAQ and ALGA. Your experience, CEO, if this motion was accepted, would you have any problem with it? The understanding that. Frank Wilkie 03:24:31.744
Point of order, we don't drag an officer into a political debate. Amelia Lorentson 03:24:35.488
Okay, through the Chair, my question is, can you explain the process? What happens once the motion is ratified at Council level? What happens next? Does it automatically get accepted as a motion for these conferences? Larry Sengstock 03:24:51.212
No, it still has another process to go through, the LGAQ, before it gets accepted except to go into the conference per se. So it's still another step. But to be honest, in terms of this debate, or this, process right now, the Mayor has put up a motion, but you're more than entitled to put it back in if you want the support of your Council and Councillors. You're more than entitled to put it back in and debate it. Thank you. Amelia Lorentson 03:25:22.210
I'd like to move an amendment please. Certainly. Thank sorry. I'll just add that back in. Thank you. So I'd like to. Karen Finzel 03:25:48.746
I'm happy to second the debate. Thank you. Amelia Lorentson 03:25:52.510
I'd like to move an amendment to reinstate my motion which is. Urgent action on plastic pollution: call for acceleration of the national plastics plan and Roadmap that the local government association of Queensland calls on the Queensland government to advocate to the Australian government for the expedited implementation. And resourcing of the national plastics plans and national packaging Roadmap and to work in partnership with local governments to address the escalating environmental and financial impacts of plastic pollution. Brian Stockwell 03:26:29.496
Cannot suggest we add in above there and to amend item A accordingly because item A currently says three, that would make it four. Do we have a seconder? Councillor Finzel, Councillor Lorentson. Amelia Lorentson 03:26:46.625
I do this because I found out today at 12 o'clock through an email that the Mayor decided to personally call the LGAC here to discuss my motion and pulled out my motion that I have worked through. Spent considerably spent considerable time on, had it reviewed by staff who provided their feedback and input which I incorporated and gone through the proper process. So, am I a little bit disappointed? Absolutely. It seems to me out of the ordinary that the Mayor made this phone call to discuss the LGAQ, specifically this LGAQ motion with the president. It seems out of the to me raises questions about process. I believe it's important for this motion to go through and allow the LGAQ to make the decision whether or not it's relevant or not. And for the reasons that the Mayor actually stated, the fact that Queensland has not agreed come on board with the national plastics plan Roadmap, that's the exact reason that this motion should be put up there. When you bring a motion, when a motion is ratified by Council, it becomes a formal document, a formal record of our commitment to an issue. So on the worse side, if it doesn't even get accepted by LGAQ, at a minimum, we will have a formal record that this Council thinks plastic crisis is important, and impacts our waste infrastructure, and our environment. A motion also formal motion also raises the visibility of this issue. And over the last 12 months, we have had microplastics thrown all over our beaches. We know that this is compounding and becoming an issue for our waste and our landfills. So again, formal motion, whether it gets supported or not supported by the LGAQ raises the visibility of this crisis. And once you raise the visibility of the issue, whether it's through local Council or whether through the LGAQ, it makes it more likely that issue will be prioritised. The more attention we give to this motion, the higher the chance that it's going to be addressed effectively. Again, I'm still taken back that this is actually happening. Like, I'm still sitting back thinking, why would you not be supporting something so important? We have an opportunity to. Amplify the voices of our community. This is. We are Different by Nature, and we have to walk the talk. We have to make a noise when things matter to this community. We have the opportunity, again, to amplify our voices. By saying, not just Noosa Council thinks this is an important issue, that 77 other councils in Queensland think it's also an important issue. That's the whole purpose of advocacy. That's why we. Spend time and effort. You know, us writing to the LGAQ, that's one Council. I want 77 councils to say, we agree with you. This is not good enough Queensland. Jump on board. Guys you are too relaxed and we need to do something about it. So you can hear in my voice, like I said, I didn't expect this and taken back because again, maybe I'll have a different idea. Of leadership, I have a different idea of how things should work. But I know how much effort and time and passion is involved in and courage is involved in putting these motions together. And I would expect at a minimum support from our leaders and staff, supporting Councillors who take the effort and time to put these motions together, not cutting them back and telling them it can't be done. So I hope everyone can support the amendment in front of us because it's the right thing to do. And even if it gets rejected at the LGAQ board, we are still making a noise about something that's important. We're calling it out. And that's action. That's how change happens, by prioritising important things even if we know it may not get put up. Brian Stockwell 03:31:57.261
Thank you. Yeah, it's awesome. Nicola Wilson 03:32:01.981
The LGAQ motions protocol said that motions should not relate to a matter considered at a previous annual conference in the last five years to avoid duplication. Does anyone know if this has been raised? Frank Wilkie 03:32:16.235
I'm pretty sure it has been. Support for the national plastics plan. I couldn't that's why the LGAQ president has an ongoing discussion about this at the national level. Amelia Lorentson 03:32:29.883
So that could be a reason it gets forgotten. That's right. So, for instance, I had a motion on emergency, a medical. Reserve, an emergency medical reserve for the Australian Local Government Association to support the doctors that I'd spoken to here in Noosa. That got rejected. So if it's something that's already been raised over the last five years, the board will reject it. That's part of the process. I couldn't find it either but that's part that's of that why process I got it would but. Frank Wilkie 03:33:03.440
The question to the CEO is the purpose of this report and this item on the agenda is for the Noosa Council to decide which items it supports. So it's perfectly legitimate to question any of these motions. Yes I might not be the only has other questions? Yeah. Yeah. Larry Sengstock 03:33:26.462
It's the decision of a Councillor. These motions are the decision of a Councillor to go through. Amelia Lorentson 03:33:30.969
Thank you. Can I ask through the CEO, I have requested so a review and feedback on this motion and revised the motion quite a few times after receiving feedback from Director Kim Rawlings and her staff, Jordan and Cheyenne, and to yourself. Is that there also due process that if there was any reluctance or, and I actually had two other motions which on request by the staff, it was advised they weren't appropriate or relevant and they weren't advised or recommended to progress. So can I ask from your information did the staff have any issues with the motion that I put forward? Larry Sengstock 03:34:14.031
To the best of our knowledge we've helped you with this one. This is probably new knowledge that we're aware of. We're also saying 12 o that's for you to take forward but that's okay. We've done our piece to the best of our knowledge and then it's up to Council to debate and decide whether you all agree. Thank you very much I'll come to it. Karen Finzel 03:34:37.134
There opportunity given what was raised by Councillor Wilson which I also was aware of as I reached out to the LGAQ with the fight you know has been raised within the last five years it seems like we haven't got a definitive answer for that before the meeting can, I don't know who does but the Mayor. Perhaps I'm not sure to actually find out has it been before the LGAQ within the last five years or is it because it might have been six years ago it's already up there we don't know so it's really hard to you know debate that if we haven't got like what the facts are. Frank Wilkie 03:35:17.196
If I remember right there's something on plastics almost every year. Karen Finzel 03:35:22.443
The conference. So, there might be an opportunity there that you could reword this to make it like perhaps more specific. That has been raised before for example like construction of boat ramps as we know how that all ended up on our beaches because of the construction of that. I mean maybe if that's the case that we need something more specific. At least that gives Council of monastir the opportunity to you know make it perhaps more specific. Amelia Lorentson 03:35:51.758
So it fits the guidelines can I ask the question if that's the case with every other motion that's been put forward by other Councillors have to be do we ask the same question with every one of them because I know there's been similar motions because I've attended five years in a row on all the motions that's in front of us. Brian Stockwell 03:36:16.099
I just think we're okay I don't think we can have an answer to that question I think we'll be up to whoever is interested to find out but we go back to addressing the amendment which was in relation to the re-inclusion of that motion so at this stage Councillor Lorentson has spoken. Councillor Wegener. Tom Wegener 03:36:39.296
You all know that I really dislike micromanaging and Councillor Lorentson has put a lot into this motion we'd let it go in. I just I support it going in because if you put a lot of work into it we've all supported it overall and it's the LGAQ well they can make a decision on it but I don't think we should stop it after it has momentum here and a lot of work has gone into it. I don't like to micromanage. Frank Wilkie 03:37:13.963
Rebut that I think this is micromanaging this is stating the obvious all it's doing is asking this Federal government to get on with the national plastics plan and if we're interested in getting an outcome generally interested in getting an outcome through the most effective means of advocacy we've got a pathway directly through the LGAQ that doesn't need to go through a conference all these things can be achieved through another means I'm not saying don't do it I'm saying it can be done by a more effective means is about effective use of resources and time I agree with what's in the national plastics plan in the Roadmap I agree on with it it's a motherhood statement that's what I'm saying it's not a motion that brings about like the other ones other motions talk about real change real advocacy that will bring about something that's not happening currently this is already underway and we can give the Federal government and now we can tell the community we're doing it through a press release or whatever or through reporting on this meeting that we want greater action at the Federal level that we want the LGAQ and the LGAQ said send us a letter and we'll do it they're doing it already so so it's not about just being seen to be doing something it's about actually getting something done through the most efficient and effective means possible and that's Councillors you're free to include it there's no harm in doing it there's absolutely no harm in including it, but I'm saying we've got three other very good motions that talk about real change that will have impact and bring something to a conference that hasn't been brought before every year there's something on plastics and about the national plastics Roadmap the plan harm in we're all passionate about the subject. There's just another way of achieving the same result without it being an endorsed motion of Noosa Council it can be an endorsed position of Noosa Council and we write to the LGAQ about that and they will have the same conversation with the Federal government as they would if it was endorsed at a conference all I'm saying I'll accept the majority. Amelia Lorentson 03:39:56.662
Here um question can we do both can we write to the LGAQ president and also present the motion. Frank Wilkie 03:40:05.115
Yeah of course we can I've moved this motion for the debate to subject these motions to some sort of rigour we can still be supportive of the concept within it it's also about deciding the most effective ways to get results and if it's a combat results combination of the two I'm happy with that too. Brian Stockwell 03:40:28.315
Great, that was a good talk, Councillor Wilson. Nicola Wilson 03:40:32.638
"I think we can argue that we could write a letter to the minister or to the FAQ and you and advocate this that conference is about trying to get support for all 77 councils across different issues and with state-wide relevance so I think with all of our motions there's maybe questions about whether they are all related to local government business but I prefer the LGAQ to make those decisions rather than. Karen Finzel 03:41:02.344
Yeah, I don't want to. I'd like to reiterate that too I think you know I think this whole process actually supports good democratic process I think it's you know it's really last minute I don't even see the 12 o'clock email I think that you know to make the decisions around like adherence to process and regulations and all that at the midnight hour when we have been taking these motions to LGAQ and ALGA over like as long as. Councillor laurencester and myself have been here. I think we've represented this Council nearly every time. The whole process gives voice. It's like you know we can't really process now because officers or whoever gives clear delineation of what that is. So we have in good faith followed the process. Council laurencester has given a lot of time and effort, being been supported by the staff and also as I raised earlier, it is raising it to the general assembly, unless it does not fit the requirement of the five years, we have a right to raise that issue across 77 other councils to reiterate the urgency of that and move that forward. We are in a biosphere. All for those reasons, I support we reinstate it. Also, we don't want to be micromanaging on stuff that we don't even know what the guidelines are at this stage to actually, like, debate that process. So I think it should be given opportunity there. I say at this late stage we allow LGAQ and their own committee in their process to actually adjudicate that and make the decision if that goes forward. Brian Stockwell 03:42:48.946
Thank you. Councillor Phillips, do you wish to talk? Jessica Phillips 03:42:54.576
I think it's all being said. I know the effort that goes into these motions and I think it's only just absolute respect for everyone around the table that we see the work that goes into them go through to the next stage. So, yeah, I'll support absolutely for it to go through. Brian Stockwell 03:43:17.354
So I'll have my say. Councillors, I seem to recall the outline from staff that the first workshop on this was the desire to get down to three motions. So independent of what Councillor Wilkie's talked about, my consideration was about what are the three most important. Do we want to prioritise or do we just want to be a clearing house? If it's just a clearing house we don't really need to be voting on, we just have individual councils. But this is about what's most important and what's most relevant to the. LGAQ conference. And we have tended to go like this up until 2020, the most motions have went up to Noosa Council, up to a high last year of eight. So I do believe there is wisdom in us deliberating about what are the most important and effective motions to be put before the general assembly rather than, you know, individual councils, I've done a couple at a time. One, the outcome was achieved. One, it hasn't. If you look back at a lot of them, the response, other than what might happen during the conference itself, is a letter gets written is the only advocacy that comes out of it. So to me, I support the original motion. I think there is wisdom in trying to refine out what we put up to the three most important. I put the motion, no, the amendment, those in favour? Frank Wilkie 03:44:46.151
I think Councillor Lorentson has one too. Brian Stockwell 03:44:47.973
Oh, you do too? I've been missing that all the time. Councillor Lorentson? Amelia Lorentson 03:44:51.807
To I speak, wasn't going to just but I am. I'm still going to be going home tonight and asking the one question, why at the 11th hour, one hour before General Committee, was this. Were we all notified that this motion was going to be pulled out? And I'm going to be asking should at why at be the 11th hour. Was a call made to your GRP conference on this particular motion. Again, we should be encouraging hard work. We should be leading by example. We should be applauding those Councillors that put in the extra effort, time and dedication and commitment to these causes. Advocacy is part of our role. It's not mandatory. But it's a powerful tool and as we've heard around the table, especially by those Councillors that have submitted motions, have gone to every LGAQ conference and every ALGA conferences. That it gives us a chance to raise, not our voices, our community voices on issues that are important to them. So again tonight, I'll be going home wondering why. Brian Stockwell 03:46:10.329
Okay, I'll put the member those in favour. That's Councillor Lorentson, Wegener, Finzel, Wilson and Councillor Councillor Phillips. Phillips I said yes, sorry. Yes, and those opposed is Councillor Wilkie and Stockwell. It now becomes part of the motion and Councillor Wilkie has the only one to have spoken to the motion. Would others like to speak to the motion generally or any aspects of it? Councillor Wilson. Nicola Wilson 03:46:40.404
I will. Just in relation to the kind of trying to shortlist motions that go to the conference. I think we were up to 14 at one point, so there has been some robust discussion around this table and the Councillors who have put forth these motions have. You know, have done so very thoroughly and we did come to some agreement on some that they weren't quite relevant or they weren't good enough, so to actually get that down to four motions is already a good achievement. As I said before, I'm not convinced on some of them being necessarily that relevant to local government business, but I still think it's worth having the discussion about them and all the research that goes into them, and then for LGAQ to make that determination as part of that robust process. So I think we actually did well to get from such a large number to begin with, to something that is actually quite high. And I thank think the we're going lord to for the work he did for us. Thank you. Brian Stockwell 03:47:50.733
Councillor Lorentson. Amelia Lorentson 03:47:52.041
I also want to take a moment to acknowledge those that have put or taken the time to prepare these advocacy pieces. We're often reminded that once a motion is brought to a table and ratified by four it becomes the motion of four Councillors. And there's no dispute in that. But I think it's important as leaders to recognise that without the initiative and effort of that individual Councillor, that motion wouldn't even be here on table. So I want to take a moment to acknowledge Councillor Phillips and Councillor Finzel for the time, the research and dedication. These motions don't appear overnight. They tackle they real concerns that have come from community. Fencing disputes, mental health, trial of non-lethal shark mitigation measures during whale migration season. I sit with community almost monthly. I cancelled a meeting with Sandy Bolton this afternoon. A group of us went to meet with her later on this afternoon. Plastics. It's plastic free July. We are Different by Nature. That's not a mantra, it be a statement. Of mind. We should be doing everything to amplify we are Different by Nature. So yes, these are issues that deeply impact our community and are important. So thank you to the Councillors who have stepped up and thank you to the Councillors around the table that also acknowledge the work and dedication that goes into preparing. These this. Motions and how important they are to this community. Advocacy is a tool that we need to all use. One voice is one voice. Seventy- Queensland Councillors across is a really, really loud voice and they're happy to stand with us to prioritise the issues that matter to us because we find out in these conferences there are issues that matter to them as well. Brian Stockwell 03:50:08.552
Out of campus, can't you feel good? Karen Finzel 03:50:09.828
Yes, thank you. I think it's all been said around the table. I reiterate what Councillor Amelia has said today. Everyone's worked hard in the space. You know, we're a democracy. I think that's our role as Councillors to bring to the table, you know, and represent the people that placed us here and trust us to hear their concerns and raise them at whatever resource or tool currently sits at our hands to deliver. The motion I bring before is around engagement. Now they're our future. From the Federal to the State to the local level of government we're all aware of the impacts in this complex society in which we live. You know, I'm so honoured to have the opportunity to represent those young people. A strategy was put out at the Federal level to engage a strategy to include young people in the decisions made by government. How many young people know the process to access not only their Councillor, but let alone around a decision-making table in local government and right through to all levels of government through our pink body? I think, you know, that's our role, to advocate and give voice to our people and whatever tool that we can access in this elected position. Don't agree with either that really we should be trying to limit this to the number because I think we have opportunity if within the LGBTQ guidelines to make them, of course, I respect that. But to bring voice to a vast majority I will tell you every one of those conferences I've been to that debate across that conference is so relevant because everyone brings a different voice you can even find answers to your own community within that. We can connect with other government officials, their CEOs, their mayors, they're all there and you can do access to any one of them and have conversations this is a valued resource and opportunity for us to give voice particularly around what I've raised I'm giving voice that's going to listen to young people empower young people to advocate and engage with the government and align with the Federal policy that says we will support government to work with young people to facilitate their voice I think all of us here are passionate about what we've worked hard to deliver to give voice to our people in this community and what we voted here for. So I commend all the Councillors and staff who have supported us to this point to be able to pull on this mechanism which is one of many to represent our community thank you. Brian Stockwell 03:53:16.471
You others Councillor Phillips. Jessica Phillips 03:53:21.260
Thank you I'll just keep mine pretty brief I just want to firstly thank Richard for his assistance with my motion as he knew my intention behind it and helped me get to the point where it really in my opinion if supported will really impact Council staff and community and other stakeholders, the thing that I've seen in my 15 years policing experience is how often community just get to the point where is it a Council issue is it a police issue and they sort of get bounced around a little bit because there's conflict in neighbourhoods and I actually think the issue is probably going to get worse before it gets better and for me one of the reasons why I looked at the motion in the first place was to say well you know this is really costing Council a lot of money, it's also really inefficient then it's really disheartening for community if you've ever been heard spoken to someone that's been involved in neighbourhood sort of disputes it's really impacts their mental health everyone's got a to live peacefully in their homes and I think if this can you know I don't know how many times I've sat around the table at the table in policing and spoken to people that are having a real conflict with neighbours and just watching them you know it really they end up I'm saying, have to move out of my home if I can't Resolve this and I just think oh what can we do and that's why from this position I thought if there's an opportunity to bring this because it can't be just us that feels how many customer service requests come through and if this helps us and any other Council if it goes through I think it's fantastic but ultimately it means that community can feel a sense of someone getting involved in helping Resolve an issue before it ends up going through a court process which can just be lengthy and often the people I speak to know that it could even cause more stress in the end going through that process. There's a lot of research that's been done around mediation and early intervention in dispute resolution and things like this so if that ultimately comes out and helps our community and our neighbouring communities and shires then I hope that it goes through and I'm looking forward to going to the first conference and seeing it all unfold thanks to everyone else that's put in the efforts as well yeah it definitely takes a lot of time additional time to our current role as just Councillors and so for me it was yeah it was it extra time and I'm glad that we got there in the end so I'm happy to support it all and thanks everyone around the table. Amelia Lorentson 03:56:20.255
You can I ask a question through the chat please sure question to the CEO terms of limiting the amount of motions that are presented we had some discussion around the table can I ask maybe just information to be brought to the Ordinary Meeting where in the Councillor just under our code or understanding orders. The question I'm really asking is limiting the amount of motions eroding or reducing our rights as Councillors. Brian Stockwell 03:57:00.972
This doesn't appear to be a motion in regard to what's in front of us it appears to be a more general procedural motion is it in relation to this specific it. Amelia Lorentson 03:57:11.374
Is it's in reference to conversation that would be made around this table that there is an understanding or a right to reduce the amount of motions that get brought around this table my question to the CEO is Thursday's meeting can I have some information about what our rights are as a Councillor and if in fact that will be eroding or reducing our rights that would be great thank you. Karen Finzel 03:57:40.724
Is for Thursday's meeting can the GM CEO, is there a policy that. Sits in Council that informs us. Larry Sengstock 03:57:47.920
That can tell you that's part of my response I don't believe there is but I could be mistaken. Brian Stockwell 03:57:55.188
Thank you Councillor Wegener did you want to talk to us at the end of motion um I shall um I think if you read the background to there's all in four of them there's a real issue to be addressed interesting I think in all four of them um they're well at least three of them their approaches that we I think we can that may not be in line with the priorities of the new government for example priorities in use for the new government was more around putting you know getting uh adult time for adult crimes whereas what we're suggesting is the other end of the spectrum as Councillor Finzel suggested motion in regard to preventing them and I think that's a really important message to get out there. I also know that I was surprised to find out from Councillor Phillips experience that community mediation is no longer occurring in many moons ago. I know it resolved a neighbour dispute that I had and made me go off to see the community mediators and do their mediation course and other courses like it because it was so effective. So it is a, you know, the preventative measures invested by the State and it's clear in that background that, you know, because there isn't, our local government officers are being the de facto neighbour conflict mediators and taking us off our own work. But obviously, despite the previous debate two other measures are of key interest to the community and are worthy of further debate. So they're all addressing issues that are, as Councillor Lorentson talks about. Addressing issues that are relevant to our community and I'm happy to go with the majority in terms of the inclusion of all four. Councillor Wilkie, would you like to close? Frank Wilkie 03:59:49.771
Yes, of course, I'm I mean. In favour of including all four. Thank you Councillors for indulging me with the debate and testing my motion. This is a democracy and any Councillor is within their rights to raise any issue on an item that's on the agenda. Councillors may not have heard before. I did go to the extent of actually circulating the alternative motion before the meeting. I didn't have to. I could have just raised it in the meeting, let the motion be moved and from the amendment removing that particular item. And expressing my reasons for doing so. You need not, if there seems to be confusion around why this has happened. There's a number of reasons. One is this is an open forum and it's a democracy where ideas are tested. Was applying a lens of the most effective form of advocacy for each of these. The three, the other three, are new ideas and worth testing at the conference. The one about the national plastics plan, I learned through my own investigation, which I encourage Councillors to do, about the most effective forms of advocacy, is that this is already happening at a national level through the LGAQ and they, as I've said before, we can write to them. They'll pick up the issue again at the Federal level and ask them to move it along, which is essentially what it's doing. Accelerate what you're doing already. I too have, I appreciate this Councillor's work on motions. I've done some before in the past, worked with staff on motions in the past. So it's not as if it's something I don't appreciate, but it's about. Really looking at the most effective means of advocacy for this Noosa Council. And I will still write to the LGAQ president and ask that this be moved along at a Federal level, because it is an important issue. And I hope Councillors were not offended by a contrary view about the best form of advocacy for these issues, or that one particular issue. And I'm happy for that particular issue to be pursued through both avenues. Thank you for testing it. That's all that's happened. It's a democracy. Nothing terrible has happened. Brian Stockwell 04:02:26.703
I'll put the motion. Those in favour? Yes. That's unanimous. We move on to the most important item of the day, when to have the Noosa show holiday. That's alright, let's have a good one. Larry Sengstock 04:02:43.277
Okay. So every year we have to go out to the industrial places. Off to the industrial places requesting the holiday for our show day. We're proposing that day be the 11th of September, Friday the 11th of September, 2026. And I'm looking for endorsement to do that. We've actually had the endorsement of the show society to support the Noosa Show Society. Noosa is supported at that date on the 11th of September. I'm just looking for Councillors to formally approve that so I can write the letter to the industrial relations to get them to approve it as well. Brian Stockwell 04:03:28.866
I'm happy to move the staff. Recommendation. This is a procedural one, we don't get much choice, it's when the show is on and the Friday of it and we all go out there with our company hats on. Okay, anyone else wish to talk to the motion? All those in favour of the motion please raise your hand. I'll then put it to the vote. Those in favour? Any Councillors? Yes. That's unanimous. Well. Jessica Phillips 04:03:59.474
I was actually going to ask, what did we say? Amelia Lorentson 04:04:06.585
People might not be happy with your answer. Sorry, it's late on Monday. Brian Stockwell 04:04:11.011
Afternoon, so we must have known. Okay, so sector 9 is a so confidential item. It's about a contract award report, contract number CN24802 for 62 lake and for 62 Lake Macdonald Drive remediation and subdivision works. Have I got someone who's willing to move the standard motion about going into committee? I'm happy to move it. Councillor Lorentson. And seconded was Councillor Phillips. All those in favour? Yes. That's unanimous. Thank you. We've only got staff in that gallery. Brian Stockwell 06:24:42.757
Have you got that deferral motion you can put on the screen before you. You're on the screen. Okay. So welcome back. We've had a confidential we've had a discussions and it is my intention to move a procedural motion, which is that the General Committee item agenda 9.1 be deferred to the Ordinary Meeting on Thursday. Ordinary Meeting on I think we need to give a date or the just say the July Ordinary Meeting for further consideration. Have I got a seconder for that? Amelia Lorentson 06:25:31.078
I'm happy to second, thank you. Brian Stockwell 06:25:32.707
Lorentson, no need for discussion. Does anyone wish to discuss? No? I put the motion. All those in favour? Yes. That's carried unanimously. The meeting, thank you Councillors, it has been a well debated General Committee. I thank you for your time and your concentration for the six and a half hours. Related Noosa Council Meetings
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